Bottom up economic model discussion

It's Me Scumbag

Elder Lister
SI utumie ka-ngumu hata siku Moja. Exercise that little muscle kidogo tu. Tuambie,. Who will pay for the bottom approach?

Sema tu ni dynasty italipa maneno iishe.
Are we looking at just the traders who are already in business albeit at a slower pace or the unemployed masses all over the country?
 

Okiya

Elder Lister
That`s your bread and butter, when asked BBI you played deaf and blind. Bottom up is not my bread and butter
It doesn't matter whether its bread and butter. We share information if we have. And if we don't have we admit so.

Am curious about that BBI question which is proving to be the one holding you back from answering anything. Tag me to it.
 

It's Me Scumbag

Elder Lister
School going kids were promised laptops and now we are at gain with batocks up !
This is the sad bit about the histler survivor narrative. And even if we go to the experts to explain the bottom up model,even they are divided. What about us who are no experts whatsoever?

Which takes me to my own favourite surprise regarding the hustler survivor: How he managed to convince real hustlers that he is part of and fighting for their hustle has remained a big amazing surprise issue to me....
 
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dabu

Lister
let's not lie to ourselves, tribal politics is going nowhere, MK is very much right DP must come from mk , everyone will be aligned where demigod will say. Sahi it's just hot air.

That said i have no idea what bottom up is, also nobody does except what has been said up there just a catchy phrase .
That's why i said from a naive point of view.
 

Giggz

Elder Lister
Anyways waende Nyamakima na down town waone bottoms up ndio nini.... those printing shops, electrical shops na kadhalika....have you seen the cars the owner parks outside the shop? Zile vitu zote wanaletewo uptown with a crazy mark up hutoka mashimo za down town
On that note i remember a friend who told me to my face he can't buy anything from Tom Mboya and lower nikacheka mbaya sana.
 

Giggz

Elder Lister
I am supporting Sugoi not because of Bottom up or any of that shiet, but to show the middle finger to Katundu Mutesa II.

However, from a naive point of view, I think the hustler narrative maybe a cure for our tribal politics. I say this because every five years we are told that we must have one of our own at the top so that we benefit. It is happening right now with kina MK na Kabogo coming out and telling us BS. Now if Hustler would treat each hustler equally, what need would we have of akina Melon, Madvd et al?
Most people don't care who is running the system but whether the system is working. The "dynasties" benefit from the status quo so they don't like change.
Kibaki brought policies that uplifted the hustler despite the exclusivity of some of his minions . We are still enjoying his legacy.
 

Giggz

Elder Lister
If this was in a western country I would take it seriously because it would come with the WHAT and HOW policies.
Since it's in KE, it's just a catch phrase to me.
HOW to implement it if it were true,
1. change policies to encourage small business owners and business people at large. Example Rwanda.
2.block some imports and force them to be produced in KE (how? Ref. to point 1)
3. Kill corruption
4. Increase wages

The more the industries and production done in KE the more the jobs for people.
For point 1,2, 4 to work point 3 has to be strictly adhered to.

In other words, if you kill corruption, this country will work. All these catch phrases will not be needed.
You can't kill the corruption dragon you only reduce its heads.
 
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