Bottom up economic model discussion

Giggz

Elder Lister
Isifungwe kabla useme your preferred candidate for 2022 presidential election. Kivutha , Martha na the other guy exposed nude by a slayqueen are not top contenders
When Ouru came in 2nd term and remembering how he had screwed Kenyans 1st term , i said to myself. We have wasted a golden opportunity to experience real growth as a country for all Kenyans. He has also wasted all opportunities for greeks to ever redeem themselves in the eyes of other Kenyans. Also we will waste valuable time which we can't afford losing to rope in all Kenyans to participate in economic growth.
 

JazzMan

Elder Lister
Na ukameza hiyo bullshit?
Watu wengine hawana sera and yet he's on record saying it's NASA manifesto? What is it that the opponents dont know except sloganeering?
Oh the innocence of the lamb.
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They fell for the parable of the covered lamp.

You swallowed it line, hook and sinker.

Mark 4: 21–23

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Do you honestly believe that the World Bank expert passed up an opportunity to demonstrate his brilliance? All this bottom up chieth warudishe Maasai Mara warushie puto za watalii.
Yanni nyinyi wote hamuwezi soma statement vizuri, ama ni lazima muwekewe stress points ndio mushikanishe statement? Hata kama ndio kuchukia watu fulani, someni statement na muelewe.

Haiya, ndio hii basi

Ile kitu mimi naweza sema, this bottom up model has merits. Shida ni implementation. Ndii in a tweet alisema they are not going to reveal the details yet (yaani kumaanisha wataweka details baadaye) ndio hawa jamaa engine wenye hawana sera wasifanye photocopy.

As of now, this question of HOW is premature (because the policy itself has not been fully explained/expressed to their understanding). Wacha tungoje wenye sera waongee halafu tuone (let's wait and see) kama ni feasible ama kama itakuwa another stadium in Kamariny (nilikuwa naenda kusema ni self explanatory lakini naona mlianguka literature. Ruto mwenyewe promised stadiums will be built, including one in Kamariny which we are yet to see ergo he was lying and could be doing the same this time).
 

It's Me Scumbag

Elder Lister
How much has Mumias eaten so far while being 'revived'? Billions. Money that could go to Cooperatives to help them acquire better varieties, tools and machinery to improve production. Cooperatives can the form around the several private mills that give them the best deal.
That to me is a prime example of bottom-up model... For example imagine what those small milk coops do to farmers when there is proper planning of milk production and sale from the farm gate? And the subsequent jobs created. But we are busy agending the agenda and narrating the narrative while missing the bigger picture all together.
 

Denis Young

Elder Lister
That to me is a prime example of bottom-up model... For example imagine what those small milk coops do to farmers when there is proper planning of milk production and sale from the farm gate? And the subsequent jobs created. But we are busy agending the agenda and narrating the narrative while missing the bigger picture all together.
Kwanza hiyo ya maziwa pisses me off. Leo mzee kwanza amepata a new gacau and has diligently improved the breed of his cows for more than a decade halafu ngombe ingine statehouse is busy trying to corner and monopolize the milk market.

Selling milk as a small scale farmer is not a profitable venture as it once was especially when you factor in the ever rising cost of feeds.
 

Mwalimu-G

Elder Lister
halafu ngombe ingine statehouse is busy trying to corner and monopolize the milk market.
Hapa you are letting envy cloud your view. It should never matter who the third level marketer/value adder is as long as the aggregator who picks your father's milk at the farm gate pays him enough to cover his costs and a reasonable margin.
 

Denis Young

Elder Lister
Hapa you are letting envy cloud your view. It should never matter who the third level marketer/value adder is as long as the aggregator who picks your father's milk at the farm gate pays him enough to cover his costs and a reasonable margin.
You fail to appreciate that the price farmers get has remained relatively the same yet the cost of feeds continues to rise. Not only that, the cost of medicines that are mainly imported against a weaker shilling means that cost is passed on to the farmer.

Some people like my father are slightly immune because of his improved grade of cows which have increased the amount of milk he produces thus hedging the input costs. What about the people with kawaida cows who are indeed the majority?
 

Ngimanene na Muchere

Elder Lister
You fail to appreciate that the price farmers get has remained relatively the same yet the cost of feeds continues to rise. Not only that, the cost of medicines that are mainly imported against a weaker shilling means that cost is passed on to the farmer.

Some people like my father are slightly immune because of his improved grade of cows which have increased the amount of milk he produces thus hedging the input costs. What about the people with kawaida cows who are indeed the majority?

You're asking this from a gavament apologist?
 

bigDog

Elder Lister
Yanni nyinyi wote hamuwezi soma statement vizuri, ama ni lazima muwekewe stress points ndio mushikanishe statement? Hata kama ndio kuchukia watu fulani, someni statement na muelewe.

Haiya, ndio hii basi
Can I paraphrase what you are saying?

1. Bottoms up model has merits.
2. Kuna shida ya implementation(of bottoms up).
3. Ndii has worked up implementation details of bottoms up model.
4. Implementation details of bottoms up are super secret.

Collect me if I'm long.
 

Luther12

Elder Lister
What sector has the current and former governments ever protected? The current government that the hustler/survivor is part of. The same governments the monkey trader has been part of?
What makes them think they can bring in a new spin and change the narrative?

Liberalization, and privatization of state enterprises, came in mostly with the WB’s/ IMF’s SAPs in the 90s.
 

Giggz

Elder Lister
Hapa you are letting envy cloud your view. It should never matter who the third level marketer/value adder is as long as the aggregator who picks your father's milk at the farm gate pays him enough to cover his costs and a reasonable margin.
Are you sure you understand the milk market manouvers by Jezebel ?
 

Giggz

Elder Lister
How much has Mumias eaten so far while being 'revived'? Billions. Money that could go to Cooperatives to help them acquire better varieties, tools and machinery to improve production. Cooperatives can the form around the several private mills that give them the best deal.
No one will ever convince me berber has interests of Kenyans at heart. He has never handled Mumias/sugarbelt issues, or even his fishing kin.
 
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