Uhuru is testing our Tolerance level for a dictatorship

AU5 said:
So this justifies dehumanizing citizens juu according to you hawakujipanga? What's your point?

Hii Nairobi CBD hata uende Weekdays at 9pm utapata watu wamepanga line wakingojea matatu.


Siku utapatikana we will be here to remind you of this comment
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Hopefully I won't be caught out. I do plan my journeys early. Like leaving at 430 to be get to town by 6. That means I get home at 730-8 pm. Not an ideal situation to spend 3 hours on the road but a necessary one to be able to beat the hours as dictated by the curfew timing.
 
Field Marshal said:
First, I find it very stupid that the @admin can use foul language on a member.

Secondly, the police were right. I don't understand why you bonoboz can't understand one thing - we must ALL follow the law if we are to become a civilised society. Msilete ujinga na ukabila yenu against Uhuru disguised as genuine criticism.

Eti roads are being constructed that's why people are late? What roads are being constructed along Thika Road? I was personally on Msa and LA Roads at 5 and they were relatively open. Mnaleta ujinga hata haileweki. Eti banks close at 5.Where? They close at 1pm on Saturday.

Was the crackdown implemented badly? Yes. A civilised police warns people beforehand. Be at home ama tuwafungie. Preferably a day before.

Also provision should have been made for emergency vehicles by enforcing at least one open lane.

Otherwise wafunge tena tuone vile mtafanya. OBEY THE FERKING LAW!

And those people talking of a revolution, tunanawajua. A certain small deluded demographic below 40. Bring it on. There's a silent law-abiding majority that are not prejudiced keyboard warriors. Na tunawajua - a few bullets and you start wailing like monkeys on steroids.

Just because you own a second hand Japanese jalopy doesn't mean you are above the law.

Serre!
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It's Me Scumbag said:
Hopefully I won't be caught out. I do plan my journeys early. Like leaving at 430 to be get to town by 6. That means I get home at 730-8 pm. Not an ideal situation to spend 3 hours on the road but a necessary one to be able to beat the hours as dictated by the curfew timing.
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How then do you not see that it is not rebellion or stubbornness on the part of the citizenry? It is incredibly wasteful spending 3 hours on the road and even worse closing shop earlier than necessary, lower productivity leads to lower profits and eventually business closures, that means capital is lost, expensive capital.

Policy should not be as wasteful as this 8PM curfew, the sensible thing to do is move it to 10PM or scrap it while keeping other restrictions that limit physical interaction to a minimum in place.
 
JazzMan said:
These people you are calling bonobos, are you going to feed them or house them? Will you give them a share of bribes and loans so that they can survive, ama because there is a curfew they can go to hell, their already depleted livelihoods mean nothing?


You are from the generation that sang baba (saitan) moi tawala while he was systematically dismantling this country through greed and corruption. You are old and done, you have nothing left to give but misguided advice that nobody asked for, ours is just starting.

We refuse to live in a corrupt and barren wasteland because a generation of cowards could not do anything to set the future of this country on the right path, but instead chose to cower in fear for the opportunity to eat for another day.

The West have nationalist governments now, hakuna visa tutapewa kuenda kufanya kazi majuu. So, we have to fix this country for us all to live in.


Because of construction, drivers are choosing to spill over onto the other city roads. The most immediately affected are Enterprise Road, Jogoo Road and Outering. Because drivers from the affected areas are seeing the effects of trying to avoid Mombasa Road, they then spill onto Thika Road to try and escape the pressure these roads have been soaking up.

The roads were relatively open until the police decided to show Kenyans they mean nothing to your prince.

Hapa nayo umefikiria kama master planner, lakini the fact that you are still excusing such stupid actions... what am I even talking about, you voted those thugs in thrice. This was a waste of time.
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Sasa niko kwa laptop and I have unlimited data to engage you bonoboz for the next 24 hours. Sitachoka or be intimidated by low IQ arguments kama hizi zako. So wacha nianze na wewe.

As usual you start with an ad hominem on m character. Hiyo sawa - knock yourself out.

.....because a generation of cowards.....

You are not a coward? What have you done about anything other than spew tribal shit from behind a keyboard? Ama unafikiri tmesahau?

The roads were relatively open until the police decided to show Kenyans they mean nothing to your prince.

What does this mean? If the roads were open why didn't people get home in time? Yaani you can't even make a coherent argument Mkisii Msoto? Mbona hauna akili?

Let me repeat. Any businessperson who is law-abiding had from 7am to about 5pm to make his money and go home. Yesterday was Saturday, and town was not crowded. I was there and I know. I personally made it all the way from town to Ndeiya long before 8pm through Mombasa Road-Langata Road, the Southernn By-Pass and finally Dagorretti Road (ends in Mutarakwa). Mimi hauwezi niongelesha vile mnaongelesha @Mwalimu-G eti coz ako mashambani. I WAS THERE so all these excuses of clogged roads, except for one or two is BS.

Ile kitu mimi najaua ni eti watu wa Babuon wamekua na machungu na serikali ya Uhuru kutoka kitambo. This is why people are criticising Uhuru personally for an action that was probably planned INDEPENDENTLY by the CS and the police bosses. BECAUSE MUCH OF THE CRITICISM IS ACTUALLY POLITICAL, although a few disillusioned Uhuru supporters have joined the bandwagon of blaming the president for everything.

Mkissi Msoto you actually betray yourself and confirm this when you say:

..you voted those thugs in thrice. This was a waste of time.

Accept yaishe - Uhuru is president and after that it's prolly be Ruto. There will be no uprising. There will be no revolution to burn up Gikuyu businesses. na mkileta nyef nyef risasi na rungu zitatembea.

Best option for you? Jinyonge khassia.....................
 
Field Marshal said:
Sasa niko kwa laptop and I have unlimited data to engage you bonoboz for the next 24 hours. Sitachoka or be intimidated by low IQ arguments kama hizi zako. So wacha nianze na wewe.

As usual you start with an ad hominem on m character. Hiyo sawa - knock yourself out.

.....because a generation of cowards.....

You are not a coward? What have you done about anything other than spew tribal shit from behind a keyboard? Ama unafikiri tmesahau?

The roads were relatively open until the police decided to show Kenyans they mean nothing to your prince.

What does this mean? If the roads were open why didn't people get home in time? Yaani you can't even make a coherent argument Mkisii Msoto? Mbona hauna akili?

Let me repeat. Any businessperson who is law-abiding had from 7am to about 5pm to make his money and go home. Yesterday was Saturday, and town was not crowded. I was there and I know. I personally made it all the way from town to Ndeiya long before 8pm through Mombasa Road-Langata Road, the Southernn By-Pass and finally Dagorretti Road (ends in Mutarakwa). Mimi hauwezi niongelesha vile mnaongelesha @Mwalimu-G eti coz ako mashambani. I WAS THERE so all these excuses of clogged roads, except for one or two is BS.

Ile kitu mimi najaua ni eti watu wa Babuon wamekua na machungu na serikali ya Uhuru kutoka kitambo. This is why people are criticising Uhuru personally for an action that was probably planned INDEPENDENTLY by the CS and the police bosses. BECAUSE MUCH OF THE CRITICISM IS ACTUALLY POLITICAL, although a few disillusioned Uhuru supporters have joined the bandwagon of blaming the president for everything.

Mkissi Msoto you actually betray yourself and confirm this when you say:

..you voted those thugs in thrice. This was a waste of time.

Accept yaishe - Uhuru is president and after that it's prolly be Ruto. There will be no uprising. There will be no revolution to burn up Gikuyu businesses. na mkileta nyef nyef risasi na rungu zitatembea.

Best option for you? Jinyonge khassia.....................
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mzee, so because we voted jubilee we don't have a right to criticize the government because it will be political?
the buck stops at uhuru desk, if any of his lieutenants paints him in a bad picture , he can fire them.
you, you're lucky ,you have your jalopy, what about these citizens? , si basi mungesema personal zisipite raia ipite?

 
wrongturn said:
mzee, so because we voted jubilee we don't have a right to criticize the government because it will be political?
the buck stops at uhuru desk, if any of his lieutenants paints him in a bad picture , he can fire them.
you, you're lucky ,you have your jalopy, what about these citizens? , si basi mungesema personal zisipite raia ipite?

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What the ferk were they doing in town near curfew time? Boss, I've stayed in Langata where the jam is legendary, and Ive never stood in line for a matatu for more than two hours except during El Nino in 1998. SO I CAN POSTULATE THAT NONE OF THIS PEOPLE GOT OUT OF THEIR WORK PLACES AT SAY 6PM.

Same old shit, same old with Kenyans. Last minute rush. Happens all the time even with basic civic duties such as registering to vote.
 
It's Me Scumbag said:
Hopefully I won't be caught out. I do plan my journeys early. Like leaving at 430 to be get to town by 6. That means I get home at 730-8 pm. Not an ideal situation to spend 3 hours on the road but a necessary one to be able to beat the hours as dictated by the curfew timing.
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but buda, which stall owner will let you go around 4 or 5 p.m., 'coz end month unafaa kulipwa, rent pia landlord don't care provided you pay,end year kra wanangoja tax , no relief anywhere. Let's not think that all the privileges we enjoy, everyone has them, a big chunk of fellows are in the struggling class.
 
Pamba 1 said:
Unapigia mbuzi guitar, uzuri tumejua huku senate hakuna birrionares ni middle class senators wacha tuone kama leo hawataingia kwa nyumba kama kuku.
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Lol as someone who can decide to never work a day again coz of sufficient savings and a spread portfolio, why should I, as a right thinking Kenyan be comfortable in seeing fellow Kenyans struggle to make ends meet while at the same time, being not just unjustly but also unfairly treated?

We have to get to a point of being our brother's keeper good Sir.

La sivyo, we are aping Marie Antoinette in our glass castles which for lack of a better expression is plain sad, diabolical and selfish.
 
wrongturn said:
but buda, which stall owner will let you go around 4 or 5 p.m., 'coz end month unafaa kulipwa, rent pia landlord don't care provided you pay,end year kra wanangoja tax , no relief anywhere. Let's not think that all the privileges we enjoy, everyone has them, a big chunk of fellows are in the struggling class.
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I understand and recognize all that. And that's why I gave my own example. Not a blanket recommendation...the point I am trying to make is that on an individual level one can adjust to fit in with the new dispensation.
While I leave the work place at 430,there are people who continue working overnight,coz they can not make the 8 pm curfew hours. This translates to extra expense for the company which I am cognizant of. So this curfew affects different people differently.
 
Mr Black said:
How then do you not see that it is not rebellion or stubbornness on the part of the citizenry? It is incredibly wasteful spending 3 hours on the road and even worse closing shop earlier than necessary, lower productivity leads to lower profits and eventually business closures, that means capital is lost, expensive capital.

Policy should not be as wasteful as this 8PM curfew, the sensible thing to do is move it to 10PM or scrap it while keeping other restrictions that limit physical interaction to a minimum in place.
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Why limit interactions, corons issa lie that gavament uses for loans
 
mzeiya said:
Fair enough rebuttal but please hear me out.

If I didn't have the luck of working from home, I'd have left my workplace in Karen heading to Nyayo Estate at 7pm knowing I'll make it. However, due to various circumstances, I might've found myself at 8pm on the road and bunched together with other law breakers and innocent citizens including the sick in ambulances because our collective amnesia allows us to be under the illusion that punishing people is the best way of going about things.

Tell me how bunching wananchi together in close proximity helps in stopping the spread of the virus...

Make sense on how a struggling economy should be put on its deathbed by punitive measures that aren't well thought out...

Why do we have restaurants closed leading to the suffering of many families yet workers in said establishments had to take tests and adhere to social distancing and other protocols for themselves and their patrons.

Oh, do tell how an employee leaving work at 6pm should get home in two hours time considering the level of traffic in the Metropolitan and inconsiderate bosses who don't care much.

Mimi nimechoka aki. Na nimekasirika pia. Siko coherent enough but something isn't right when the leaders we elect to SERVE choose to instead RULE and PROFIT from our predicaments.
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And lastly, to you, kid bro.

First, if you worked in Karen and had to head to Nyayo Estate (Embakasi? Highrise?) you wouldn't give yourself one hour to make it. You would give yourself a buffer of about 45 minutes more; I do this often myself when I have to drop tenders and attend the opening. With all due respect (you know I do respect you) isn't this common-sense.

Now, I fully understand that you are frustrated with gavament. Truth be said, most of us are. But this doesn't mean we blame it for everything under the sky. For example you say by erecting roadblocks the police were 'bunching people together". How did they do that when everybody was in their cars?

You then go off on a tangent on current measures taken to prevent Covid spread. Bro, is it Kenya only that has implemented these measures? Haven't they been implemented even in the developing world? Ama unataka tuwe kama TZ where evidence is just now starting to emerge of a the deaths of tens of thousands, including their president.

In South Africa, for example they have even banned the sale of alcohol from even supermarkets, for example. Has Kenya gone so far?

Look, the gavament could have handled the Covid crisis better, as the Kemsa scam shows.

But if there is one thing I have confirmed is that Kenyans have a long way to go to develop a sense of civic responsibility. We are halfway between the South Sudanese and say the Japanese; we are to use a lexicon half-bonoboz.

Kitu as simple as a mask watu wanakataa kuvaa, yet ICUs zimejaa. Next thing you see is a video on Youtube of a person complaining that they or their relative couldn't get an ICU bed:

Let us criticise the gavament. Let us ask for more accountability. But in the same vein let us ALL do our part, including obeying guidelines and directives.
 
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