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You have a point but your criticism of Central folk is a tad unfair. I'd actually point out that the Agikuyu have something that should be emulated. And that is not having tribal kingpins who get universal support even when they are on the wrong.

Tribal kingpin Uhuru got universal support despite corruption that was there during term 1.
Tribal kingpin Kibaki got universal support despite being wrong about the constitution in 2005.
Remember when Kibaki fanbase called Githongo a traitor when he tried to fight corruption?
 
Tribal kingpin Uhuru got universal support despite corruption that was there during term 1.
Tribal kingpin Kibaki got universal support despite being wrong about the constitution in 2005.
Remember when Githongo tried to fight corruption but people sided with kibaki?
Fair enough points bar hiyo ya Obako... but the point remains, once you ferk up, your goose is cooked unlike other parts of the country.
Also, Githongo isn't a political leader.
 
Fair enough points bar hiyo ya Obako... but the point remains, once you ferk up, your goose is cooked unlike other parts of the country.
Also, Githongo isn't a political leader.

Luo and Kyuks are the same. Blindly following tribal kingpins. The other communities will have two or more centres of power.
Kamba- kalonzo, ngilu, kibwana
Luhya- mudavadi, weta, Oparanya, wamalwa
Kalenjin- Ruto, Gideon, Isaac Rutto
 
And that is not having tribal kingpins who get universal support even when they are on the wrong.
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Luo and Kyuks are the same. Blindly following tribal kingpins. The other communities will have two or more centres of power.
Kamba- kalonzo, ngilu
Luhya- mudavadi, weta, Oparanya
Kalenjin- Ruto, Gideon, Rutto
Mkubwa, I was not discrediting your point. If political maturity lies in choosing from an array of political parties, then respect to the guys from North Eastern, Kisii and Lamu.
If a leader is worthwhile, heck he can stay in power forever but Central ukishag watu, nalo lako limekwisha
 
Of all the big tribes, the Luhya are the most mature politically. The fact that they give audience to all leaders shows they're democratic.

In Central Karua and PK were criticised for Kuharibu kura. They had to lick ass to win back the favor. Same as Orengo in 2022 alibiwa anaharibu kura. Sahii analamba you cant believe he is the same Orengo of the brave young turk of 1992.
Docile much?
 
Luhyas have always followed Luos blindly like lemmings to jump off a political cliff. They do it every time and seem to never to learn. Luhyas and Kambas are notoriously unreliable to form group large enough worth anybody's time despite their sizable numbers. It's easier break them up into pieces and scatter them around to become inconsequential.
Let me guess.....you'd be very happy if we followed Kikuyus, right?
1992 Luhyas voted opposition. Majority voted for Ford Kenya because that's where the likes of Muliro, Wamalwa etc were. A few in Kakamega voted Ford Asili because of Shikuku. A good number especially Vihiga voted for Kanu.
1997 Wamalwa ran, he got Bukusu votes in Bungoma/Trans Nzoia plus a few in Kakamega. Areas like Busia voted alongside Luo Nyanza since they have been integrated so much most even speak Luo. Maragolis in Vihiga still voted Kanu.
2002 Luhyas voted NARC 90% despite Moi appointing MDVD to be Uhurus running mate.
2007 Majority of Luhyas voted ODM due to the anti Kikuyu wave and Kibakis blunders. A few in Bungoma voted PNU because of kina Weta and Musikari Kombo.
2012 Majority voted ODM despite MDVD vying, they saw his candidature as Uhurus project to devide them. This is what irks Kikuyus and they come up with sweeping statements like Luhyas have always followed Luos blindly. They don't understand how we can reject mtu wetu and vote RAO. Makes it hard for them kutupangia. It frustrates them.
2017 majority voted ODM. Weta and MDVD had united. A few especially in Bungoma voted Jubilee due to Lusaka/Eugene Wamalwa efforts.
Luos are our neighbours. Just like Merus will vote alongside Kikuyus, its easier for Luhyas to vote alongside Luos than it is for them to vote for a Kikuyu.
 
The Luhya, unlike the Luo or kikuyu, are not one large monolithic group. They are a collection of different tribes whose dialect is similar in certain cases, extremely different in other cases, and most have their own rivalries. Case in point Maragolis and Bukusus.

This is why you find Luhyas from Busia not able to understand what a Maragoli or a Bukusu is saying. A good example is that Yambakhana song by Sauti Sol. Only Bukusus understand a good majority of what he's singing.

On the political front, there is nothing like Luhya unity. This is why there are chupilee governers, senators and mpigs e.t.c in Luhyaland. It is easier for a party to get a foothold in Luhyaland, that's why Lootall is concentrating efforts huko. All those in that picture may be Luhya, but I'm sure they come from different parties.

Luhyas did not wake up at 3 am to vote ODM as a whole community like others voted chupilee thrice. ANC and the various Fords have a say as well.

And yes, Luhyas and Luos follow each other because of a shared history. The so-called mashemeji is very true. The intermarriage between the two is widely documented.

The Luhya in some cases cannot follow kalenjins because they are the traditional enemy, and definitely not kikuyus because of a history of use and damp among other mideeds. Who should the Luhya turn to if not Luos?

Thanks for the insha, but you did not disagree with me that Atwoli is trying to herd the disparate groups together for the 5-yearly slaughter. You also didn't disagree that all these bigwig politicians have done very little to improve livelihoods on the ground.
 
Do you have a link to that complaint, and not by 'nyinyi'? Secondly, does it justify Atwoli's bloated lifestyle and neglect of the village?
I was just pointing out the fact that Moses Kuria said that the President has not done any significant development project in Central
 
Thanks for the insha, but you did not disagree with me that Atwoli is trying to herd the disparate groups together for the 5-yearly slaughter. You also didn't disagree that all these bigwig politicians have done very little to improve livelihoods on the ground.
And come election day, they will fail. Luhyas are unpredictable.
 
I was just pointing out the fact that Moses Kuria said that the President has not done any significant development project in Central
Actually currently as we speak, some developments are currently being done especially roads. This is after making so much noise in the first term and when asked what he has in store for the region in the beginning of the second term calling leaders 'Washenzi'. He is racing against time as he is planning to go around the region to solidify his base as he open up those projects.
 
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