My choice

[Relic Hunter]

Most tangatanga are ashamed of the person who they support.
They ask others who they will vote for, their expectation being that the response will be Raila.
When you give names of other candidates like Ruben Kigame, Martha Karua, Ekuru Aukot they stop discussion.

Mdau can you stop branding people names.

 

[bigDog]

and then compare with what? Make up your mind first.

So, you have to compare his thieving with someone else thieving ouene ni gani Sugu Saudi?

 

[bigDog]

Mdau can you stop branding people names.

Isn't tangatanga an alias for hasla?

 

[The.Black.Templar]

Compare with hiring best practices. We are hiring the Country's CEO. Why would you hire a known thief?

Just sitting and criticizing one person does not help if you have not put up an alternative

 

[The.Black.Templar]

So, you have to compare his thieving with someone else thieving ouene ni gani Sugu Saudi?

You can bring the alternative that you think is better and then have a more fruitful discussion.

Think of it this way, you want to get your daughter a gift for Christmas but you are fixated on just getting one specific gift and she categorically tells you she hates your choice of the xmass gift, but does not and will not give you an alternative gift you could get her, what kind of conversation would you have with her? would it be a useful conversation?

 

[bigDog]

You can bring the alternative that you think is better and then have a more fruitful discussion.

Think of it this way, you want to get your daughter a gift for Christmas but you are fixated on just getting one specific gift and she categorically tells you she hates your choice of the xmass gift, but does not and will not give you an alternative gift you could get her, what kind of conversation would you have with her? would it be a useful conversation?

We are discussing merits of you candidate here. What do you like in him? Why should he get elected? What is his track record? What are his achievements?

 

[The.Black.Templar]

We are discussing merits of you candidate here. What do you like in him? Why should he get elected? What is his track record? What are his achievements?

that has already been shared before, repeating it will not get us anywhere unless you give the merits of your candidate, why you like him, why he should be elected his track record and all that.

The analogy I have provided will tell you that as my "daughter", you will not progress the conversation unless you tell me what gift you want instead of what I have chosen.

 

[bigDog]

that has already been shared before, repeating it will not get us anywhere unless you give the merits of your candidate, why you like him, why he should be elected his track record and all that.

The analogy I have provided will tell you that as my "daughter", you will not progress the conversation unless you tell me what gift you want instead of what I have chosen.

Why are you unwilling to tell us why YOU support Ruto?

 

[The.Black.Templar]

Why are you unwilling to tell us why YOU support Ruto?

I did not start supporting ruto yesterday my fren, if you go through the other threads, you will find out the reason, the only factor here that would change the conversation is if you mentioned who you are supporting. Atleast Okiya gave whome he is supporting na akaweka screenshot. Why are you scared?

 

[Okiya]

Mdau can you stop branding people names.

 

[mkurugenzi]

We have settled for baba.

 

[The.Black.Templar]

Why are you unwilling to tell us why YOU support Ruto?

I have a theory, you are scared of mentioning your preferred candidate because you are afraid that we might see through your self rightousness, that ultimately you are just like the rest of us but you are mostly afraid of getting the same criticism that you very freely dish out

 

[Clemens]

Because it is no longer a calling...it is a job like any other.

Didn't get your point, what isn't a calling, the CECs or the Clerical officers?

 

[bigDog]

I have a theory, you are scared of mentioning your preferred candidate because you are afraid that we might see through your self rightousness, that ultimately you are just like the rest of us but you are mostly afraid of getting the same criticism that you very freely dish out

So, you have been looking for an opening so that you can launch a personal attack against me? Nakuonea 18 my friend

 

[The.Black.Templar]

So, you have been looking for an opening so that you can launch a personal attack against me? Nakuonea 18 my friend

It is not personal buddy, it is just a theory. You are not opening yourself up for criticism like everybody else, yet you love critiquing others decisions na hupeani yako. Neither is it an attack

 

[bigDog]

It is not personal buddy, it is just a theory. You are not opening yourself up for criticism like everybody else, yet you love critiquing others decisions na hupeani yako. Neither is it an attack

How is it not personal when we start discussing ourselves rather than the competing candidates?

By asking you to justify your choice of Lootall I meant to get understand why he is popular with people who know his weaknesses.

 

[mzeiya]

Commercial break.
Watu wa wheelbarow mko sawa kweli?

And yes, that's a supermarket trolley

 

[The.Black.Templar]

How is it not personal when we start discussing ourselves rather than the competing candidates?

Exactly my point, it would be more fruitful if it was not just my personal candidate that you want to talk about but also share who your candidate is, you have to open up kidogo so we can start having a conversation

 

[mkurugenzi]

 

[mkurugenzi]

Exactly my point, it would be more fruitful if it was not just my personal candidate that you want to talk about but also share who your candidate is, you have to open up kidogo so we can start having a conversation