Kufuata Sheria - EPRA edishen

[Mwalimu-G]

Bro that's why we need vibrant opposition to keep the government on toes, by now Rao ought to have a shadow cabinet !
Analysing government policies and its intentions .dissecting every government moves and feeding the public with true, correct information ! Sio kila siku, ruto this rigathi impeachment !

I don't know if to laugh or cry.

 

[Aviator]

EPRA is only concerned by those producing 1MW and above, not people producing power for domestic consumption

Let's talk of tea factories for example.
They generate their own power to run their factories. No sales of power to outsiders. They produce tea which is subject to excise duty, vat, NEMA, kebs and all those other taxes.
What justification is there to tax their power?

 

[uwesmake]

Let's talk of tea factories for example.
They generate their own power to run their factories. No sales of power to outsiders. They produce tea which is subject to excise duty, vat, NEMA, kebs and all those other taxes.
What justification is there to tax their power?

They sell extra power to Kenya power, they are licensed. They pay tax for the extra they sell to kenya power.
Those power plants cost them over a billion shillings. They have complied with the law.

 

[Mwalimu-G]

Let's talk of tea factories for example.
They generate their own power to run their factories. No sales of power to outsiders. They produce tea which is subject to excise duty, vat, NEMA, kebs and all those other taxes.
What justification is there to tax their power?

They sell what they can't use to KPL.

 

[Aviator]

They sell extra power to Kenya power, they are licensed. They pay tax for the extra they sell to kenya power.
Those power plants cost them over a billion shillings. They have complied with the law.

They sell what they can't use to KPL.

Would they still need a license if they weren't selling?
Secondly, I want to believe they sell when their production is off-peak, say at night. And they pay tax on it.
Then when they are running at peak and buy extra, they pay tax too.

Anyway, what do I know?

 

[Mwalimu-G]

Then when they are running at peak and buy extra, they pay tax too.

I was peripherally involved when they were developing Gura Hydro. It was to produce five MW of which they needed 2MW for their four factories and sell three to KP for added revenue.

 

[uwesmake]

Would they still need a license if they weren't selling?
Secondly, I want to believe they sell when their production is off-peak, say at night. And they pay tax on it.
Then when they are running at peak and buy extra, they pay tax too.

Anyway, what do I know?

kwani io licence mnapinga ivo mtu analipa billions? Regulator atakuja akague mitambo yako aone sio hatari kwa usalama wa public na akupatie cheti, uachwe ukifanyia stima yako.chenye unataka.

Kibanda ya chai na mandazi kando ya barabara hukaguliwa na watu wa public health na kupewa cheti sababu ya vitu kama cholera, driver wa nduthi anatakiwa awe na licence.
Mtu ako na power plant ya 1.5 billion mnataka awe exempted?

Unajua Dam ya Solai enye iliuwa wananchi? Ilikuwa private na hawakuwa wanauza maji, lakini project kubwa ivo, 1MW, incase kitu iende vibaya inaweza kuwa hatari kwa usalama wa citizens. Lazima regulator akuwe involved kwa project kama hiyo.

 

[uwesmake]

wacheni kupinga kila kitu bila maarifa. Electrician mwenye unamuita kwako kwa nyumba kutengeza stima lazima awe licenced, lakini mtu ako na power plant hafai kuwa licensed? Tena licence enyewe ni 20k sio eti ni pesa mingi, io ndo mnapinga?
Power plant ya 1.5 billion hawataki kulipa license ya 20k?

 

[Aviator]

kwani io licence mnapinga ivo mtu analipa billions? Regulator atakuja akague mitambo yako aone sio hatari kwa usalama wa public na akupatie cheti, uachwe ukifanyia stima yako.chenye unataka.

Kibanda ya chai na mandazi kando ya barabara hukaguliwa na watu wa public health na kupewa cheti sababu ya vitu kama cholera, driver wa nduthi anatakiwa awe na licence.
Mtu ako na power plant ya 1.5 billion mnataka awe exempted?

Unajua Dam ya Solai enye iliuwa wananchi? Ilikuwa private na hawakuwa wanauza maji, lakini project kubwa ivo, 1MW, incase kitu iende vibaya inaweza kuwa hatari kwa usalama wa citizens. Lazima regulator akuwe involved kwa project kama hiyo.

wacheni kupinga kila kitu bila maarifa. Electrician mwenye unamuita kwako kwa nyumba kutengeza stima lazima awe licenced, lakini mtu ako na power plant hafai kuwa licensed? Tena licence enyewe ni 20k sio eti ni pesa mingi, io ndo mnapinga?
Power plant ya 1.5 billion hawataki kulipa license ya 20k?

I get you.
You happen to be the most sober minded guy here, unlike the Uwesmake I know.
Anyway, it makes sense from your explanation.

 

[Aviator]

I was peripherally involved when they were developing Gura Hydro. It was to produce five MW of which they needed 2MW for their four factories and sell three to KP for added revenue.

Walilipa ngapi licence?

 

[Aviator]

Am just anti-licensing coz in most cases, there's no commensurate value from the authorities.
Kama ukipaka nyumba yako rangi lazima upewe license. Ukitaka kuendesha gari yako lazima ukue na renewed licence.

 

[Mwalimu-G]

Walilipa ngapi licence?

I do not remember but I know application is 10000. You might find this resource useful.

http://epra.go.ke/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Energy-Electricity-Licensing-Regulations-2012-4.pdf

 

[Giggz]

Let's talk of tea factories for example.
They generate their own power to run their factories. No sales of power to outsiders. They produce tea which is subject to excise duty, vat, NEMA, kebs and all those other taxes.
What justification is there to tax their power?

The justification is "they should be taxed"

 

[Giggz]

Actually there should be a tax on Whatsapp groups

 

[Ubongo]

Quite informative