Controlled Development Manenos

[Aviator]

There's this "gated" community somewhere that has rules against putting high rise buildings. A guy buys a plot there and sets up to build a 5-floor flat. Gets all necessary NEMA, NCA and kanjo approvals for the same. At third floor, he receives a letter from the resident's association informing him that the area is controlled and he cannot continue with the project. The guy replies that he is not a member of the association and is therefore not bound by their rules. He continues to state that the resident's association has no mandate in approving or disapproving his project as there are government agencies constitutionally mandated to do that work.

Mtu kama huyo tumfanyie nini?

 

[Tuthu wa Ndenderu]

There's this "gated" community somewhere that has rules against putting high rise buildings. A guy buys a plot there and sets up to build a 5-floor flat. Gets all necessary NEMA, NCA and kanjo approvals for the same. At third floor, he receives a letter from the resident's association informing him that the area is controlled and he cannot continue with the project. The guy replies that he is not a member of the association and is therefore not bound by their rules. He continues to state that the resident's association has no mandate in approving or disapproving his project as there are government agencies constitutionally mandated to do that work.

Mtu kama huyo tumfanyie nini?

Home owner's Association takes precedence. But, the kenyan legal system is full of surprises

 

[Mawaya]

Mtu kama huyo tumfanyie nini?

Here is where money and influence comes into play.
If he has more of those than you and your estate group members have poleni sana.
Mtakuwa mnatoa tu machungu kwa WhatsApp group as the building goes higher.

 

[Aviator]

Home owner's Association takes precedence. But, the kenyan legal system is full of surprises

Are such associations even recognized in law?

 

[Aviator]

Here is where money and influence comes into play.
If he has more of those than you and your estate group members have poleni sana.
Mtakuwa mnatoa tu machungu kwa WhatsApp group as the building goes higher.

He's just a normal guy. But I think his argument is logical.

 

[Greedy genius]

He's just a normal guy. But I think his argument is logical.

What is the user of the land? Single dwelling unit or multiple residential? Did he change the user from single to multiple dwelling? Whom did he consult? When did NEMA issue the license? Did they follow the procedure?

 

[Aviator]

What is the user of the land? Single dwelling unit or multiple residential? Did he change the user from single to multiple dwelling? Whom did he consult? When did NEMA issue the license? Did they follow the procedure?

Not sure but the guy has all the necessary approvals.

 

[Missdee]

There's this "gated" community somewhere that has rules against putting high rise buildings. A guy buys a plot there and sets up to build a 5-floor flat. Gets all necessary NEMA, NCA and kanjo approvals for the same. At third floor, he receives a letter from the resident's association informing him that the area is controlled and he cannot continue with the project. The guy replies that he is not a member of the association and is therefore not bound by their rules. He continues to state that the resident's association has no mandate in approving or disapproving his project as there are government agencies constitutionally mandated to do that work.

Mtu kama huyo tumfanyie nini?

Take him to court, I wish we could have auch rules hapa kwetu

 

[kijanamrefu]

Yaani hakuna mtu aliona foundation ikichimbwa akasema, 'Kuna nyumba kubwa inakuja hapa'.

Kuna moja mtaani walijaribu kuleta na tukazima kama residents. This was straight after the building got approval. Not after they got to 10th floor.

 

[Therapist]

There's this "gated" community somewhere that has rules against putting high rise buildings. A guy buys a plot there and sets up to build a 5-floor flat. Gets all necessary NEMA, NCA and kanjo approvals for the same. At third floor, he receives a letter from the resident's association informing him that the area is controlled and he cannot continue with the project. The guy replies that he is not a member of the association and is therefore not bound by their rules. He continues to state that the resident's association has no mandate in approving or disapproving his project as there are government agencies constitutionally mandated to do that work.

Mtu kama huyo tumfanyie nini?

He is within his rights. Kuleni hu

 

[Aviator]

Take him to court, I wish we could have auch rules hapa kwetu

On what charges?
Building a high rise isn't an offence, or is it?

 

[Aviator]

Yaani hakuna mtu aliona foundation ikichimbwa akasema, 'Kuna nyumba kubwa inakuja hapa'.

Kuna moja mtaani walijaribu kuleta na tukazima kama residents. This was straight after the building got approval. Not after they got to 10th floor.

And?
Give whole story.

 

[Aviator]

He is within his rights. Kuleni hu

Am afraid that's what we may just do. And open a floodgate for other developers.

 

[kijanamrefu]

And?
Give whole story.

That was it. Mjengo ilisimamishwa. But kuna fununu wanajaribu kitu kortini.

 

[thesavage]

I suspect that guy does not intend to live there. He is bulding the house for people who live in flats. What those other guys should do is move to another area without high rise buildings, abandon their current houses and put up high rises in their place.

But people who like stepping on other's toes, especially stepping on the toes of a whole community, they don't get far. A fire starts, your car loses brakes, or a gang of thugs waylay you and carjack you (or kill you) etc etc...

 

[grandfeu]

Am afraid that's what we may just do. And open a floodgate for other developers.

kuna kitu inaitwa change of user na huwa printed kwa magazeti na kuwekwa kwa notice board kwa site ile wenyewe malalamiko wapeleke before a certain period elapse ,kama mlikuwa mumelala shauri yenu

 

[zapp_brannigan]

kuna kitu inaitwa change of user na huwa printed kwa magazeti na kuwekwa kwa notice board kwa site ile wenyewe malalamiko wapeleke before a certain period elapse ,kama mlikuwa mumelala shauri yenu

Wueeh , ni kama ile public participation that we ignore .

 

[Aviator]

kuna kitu inaitwa change of user na huwa printed kwa magazeti na kuwekwa kwa notice board kwa site ile wenyewe malalamiko wapeleke before a certain period elapse ,kama mlikuwa mumelala shauri yenu

Probably on Kenya gazette which nobody reads. Hapo ni 10-0

 

[$$$]

There's this "gated" community somewhere that has rules against putting high rise buildings. A guy buys a plot there and sets up to build a 5-floor flat. Gets all necessary NEMA, NCA and kanjo approvals for the same. At third floor, he receives a letter from the resident's association informing him that the area is controlled and he cannot continue with the project. The guy replies that he is not a member of the association and is therefore not bound by their rules. He continues to state that the resident's association has no mandate in approving or disapproving his project as there are government agencies constitutionally mandated to do that work.

Mtu kama huyo tumfanyie nini?

Itabidi mzoee. With one comes many. The good thing is that if you have a vacant plot in that area you will be a birrionea in a few years, Kilimani style.

 

[Sambamba]

Watu hawawezi maintain integrity ya sehemu.