The agenda is there: commemorate the people who were shot during the demonstrations.
The hashtag #rutomustgo is still very much alive untill he addresses the issues causing high cost if living
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The hashtag #rutomustgo is still very much alive untill he addresses the issues causing high cost if living
Another absolute nonsense. Those demos have nothing to do with commemoration. It happened on Sunday. Most went to the streets because their friends were in the streets. Pushing Hashtags in the web won't change a thing. How do you want the govt to address a worldwide problem? Ama story za joblessness zmeanza juzi? Ruto asked to be hosted in X-spaces. Those hardcore protestors living in Kenya thought it was a good idea, but kina kimuzi and such said it was a very bad idea. Why can't you discuss with him, give him ultimatums for all the things you want done, failure to which you'd return to the streets?
Action needs to be taken on why the people rejected the finance bill, it cannot be business as usual...and it is not one single issue, it is the corruption that sees people donate 20m in churches weekly, it is the regular high end state travels, costly renovations of statehouse and related costs for their wives, kiburi when addressing Kenyan's grievances, lack of empathy....
Ruto ako na kibarua and he has to do things now instead of later...
Denis Young
Elder Lister
The legitimate protests have died a pathetic death. This outcome was the most obvious result of an otherwise healthy debate. Now any opportunity for making consequential constitutional changes is probably lost.
zapp_brannigan
I am not a Futurama fan .
Atume evidence will pay for him to collect 1Kg neck bones za Ksh 170 hapo KMC just opposite 1.7 Lounge
Why can't people tell him that? Why can't you highlight all your grievances and let them be known to everyone? He has repeatedly said he's ready to dialogue/listen, but your herd mentality thinks that's a bad idea. After today's events, the demos will cease to make sense. No goal will have been met because a kimuzi sitting somewhere in Israel incited you against discussing with the leadership.
wrongturn
Elder Lister
During approval of deployment to Haiti..
Denis Young
Elder Lister
I just realized kuna KMC hapo. I will make sure to visit.
Denis Young
Elder Lister
Naona hapa NTV people have blockaded the road Karatina hapo Pork City. I was warning just the other day that Rigathi is probably involved in some way. The guy did the same thing when Ruto was choosing his running mate. There is a reason he has been lighting fires every other day with his speeches.
Saa zingine it's best to deal with internal demons ndani kwa ndani. Though I doubt he is involved, just care not to incite another fresh round of legit demos from the mountain...I doubt he has a hand in all this.
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
Mimi nashangaa Rigathi amekujia wapi.
Nothing is lost, read the mood of the youth, until we have jobs trust you me, kesho these boys will be on the streets; I can confidently say no punitive taxes will pass in a very long time, and it's a reprieve yet worrisome at the same time, the govt has been held hostage. Let govt sit and come up with tangible workplans on job creations and even better we produce cheaper goods than imports such that we be net exporters.
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
Does this government have the brains or the will to do this?
The onus is on them, the depth of responsibility might be challenging but it's a discussion we better start having now, to begin with is to shelve privatisation plans and reevaluate everything from zero. I only wish them the best, the next regime will still face the same monster after all. To begin with let the military do certain roads from today hence forth like Egypt as we increase capacity of our already able civil engineers. Why should China still be paving our roads? I don't buy the corruption crap coz it's still them who allow it.
Denis Young
Elder Lister
Let us wait and see if my hunch is right. The signs are all there.
Denis Young
Elder Lister
When the demos started I said they were legitimate. Everyone could see that. But I cautioned that it should have been about amending the bill rather than rejecting. Now I am seeing the inciter in chief is calling for another Space on X to discuss an alternative strategy. The same way they have been telling Ruto he is not listening now they are also being told that they are not listening and that the country is going to turn on them. It is funny how that works.
Punitive taxes as you call them are just the reality of where we are as an economy. It is either we raise more taxes and reduce our borrowing and pay our debts or, we cut expenditure (less roads, less power connection, less funding for education, healthcare, etc, no wage increases, no JSS teachers and no money for intern doctors), or we continue adding debt, and expensive debt at that to run basic government programs.
As the president said, we pay 1.2 trillion in debt interest payments a year, and 1 Trillion in salaries. That is already 2.2 Trillion. Ordinary revenue is 2.4 -2.5 Trillion. 300B remains. Now send 400B to counties. Now send 100B+ to education, Health Care, Roads, Power. That is the reality.
These cheaper good that you are telling Ruto to produce are a factor of cheaper electricity and lower taxes. Tell me, how are we going to generate cheaper power and reduce taxes (and still pay debt and finance the budget) all in 2 years?
There are other austerity measured that need to be cut down...eg close down useless embassies, merge ministries, combine duplicative parastatals, about 500 to 700B can be saved without affecting social programmes that have a direct impact on people
Denis Young
Elder Lister
Can you mention these useless embassies? Which ministries should be merged? On parastatals, one of the conditions therein is to merge parastatals. Cabinet even released the directive months ago. Guess what? Guess who went to court to stop that process?