#RejectFinanceBill2024

Denis Young said:


This is so funny to me. There is this saying that once the genie is out of the box, putting it back is difficult. Now the people who were at the front are trying to walk back. People are acting shocked as if this wasn't the obvious outcome of the protests.

Ya'll hyped up braindead, gullible and excitable kids and got their heads blown off. Ati they are heroes. No! They are idiots and nobody but their family will ever remember them.
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I'm not their family by I still remember them, they will go to the annals of history as martyrs, the same as Tito Adugosi is to the second liberation movement.
 
Nchi yetuuu Wakenya ni nchi ya ajabu...

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Denis Young said:


This is so funny to me. There is this saying that once the genie is out of the box, putting it back is difficult. Now the people who were at the front are trying to walk back. People are acting shocked as if this wasn't the obvious outcome of the protests.

Ya'll hyped up braindead, gullible and excitable kids and got their heads blown off. Ati they are heroes. No! They are idiots and nobody but their family will ever remember them.
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You realize Kairo is an Itumbi stooge? But perhaps you can't see it for it seems you're birds of the same feather.
 
mzeiya said:
You realize Kairo is an Itumbi stooge? But perhaps you can't see it for it seems you're birds of the same feather.
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What? You call the guy who was in the frontlines at parliament a stooge? Just because he is able to read the room and elevate himself above reckless protests? Na niliwawuon!
 
Denis Young said:
What? You call the guy who was in the frontlines at parliament a stooge? Just because he is able to read the room and elevate himself above reckless protests? Na niliwawuon!
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Dude poured water on himself. Took some photos pretending he was splashed by kile kilorry but was found out and called out. It's actually senseless to focus on a few, even a hundred people when hundreds of thousands marched and know our individual stories of why we did so.
Read the mood of the nation ama pia utasema unangoja NIS briefings?
 
mzeiya said:
Dude poured water on himself. Took some photos pretending he was splashed by kile kilorry but was found out and called out. It's actually senseless to focus on a few, even a hundred people when hundreds of thousands marched and know our individual stories of why we did so.
Read the mood of the nation ama pia utasema unangoja NIS briefings?
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They still don't believe .
 
mzeiya said:
Dude poured water on himself. Took some photos pretending he was splashed by kile kilorry but was found out and called out. It's actually senseless to focus on a few, even a hundred people when hundreds of thousands marched and know our individual stories of why we did so.
Read the mood of the nation ama pia utasema unangoja NIS briefings?
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And you wonder how people were convinced to break into parliament? Circumstancial clips on X and you have already made conclusions ati he was pretending. The guy even has videos of himself entering parliament grounds.

Na hakuna kitu ka mood of the nation. Mlichocheana online na mauongo mingi about the finance bill, even after the bad proposals were dropped. Then after the bill was withdrawn you guys escalated ati ni kutoa serikali. Economy haipendi anarchy!

The consequences of these actions ni nyinyi tu mtapitia. Talk about cutting your nose to spite your face. Madeni haziendi mahali. The next president will still raise taxes. In fact, it is now more unlikely that we will be able to refinance maturing debt and give the country room to breathe. In fact, we are now more likely than ever to default on foreign debt, then we will see what happens to people's wealth and bank deposits.
 
The.Black.Templar said:
It is those bad proposals that show no goodwill from him, including the Mps expressing arrogance even when ideas are not defendable on any platform.
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If anything that is the one good thing that has come from this protest. Politicians think they are a different class from everyone else. Kibaki tried to institute austerity, but political reality dawned and the passats were dumped.

Now we find ourselves in the same position again. Things like oversight funds, sitting allowance, the salaries themselves all need to be revised downwards, some cut completely. But these things are not in the power of the president.

What can be done, however, won't even yield anywhere near 100B let alone 300B. Office of 1st, 2nd, 3rd lady, renovations, buying new cars etc. Hizi ni optics tu.

That is why further cuts to expenditure have to happen and already senators and governors are crying ati pesa yao isiguzwe. I am genuinely happy about this. We must all start living like the broke country we are including all those who keep asking for 'maendeleo'.
 
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Denis Young said:
What can be done, however, won't even yield anywhere near 100B let alone 300B. Office of 1st, 2nd, 3rd lady, renovations, buying new cars etc. Hizi ni optics tu.
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A conducive business environment for the ever growing huge number of educated young people, millennials, gen zii and the coming gen alpha, easy access to capital and elimination of unnecessary regulations that is enforced by corrupt rent seekers..

External investors who recognize kenya as high growth potential investment opportunity allowed to freely invest in the country without being hounded by politicians and their sidekicks for kickbacks, like we saw with the ex journalist in Mudavadi's office the other day, and being frustrated by the courts. They are bound by their countries laws not to facilitate corruption. Many more jobs otherwise created directly and indirectly that govt central planning can never match.

There's unlimited upside that will generate much more.

Why does the govt insist on labour migration so that educated kenyans take up jobs in foreign countries to generate taxes for them, building foreign economies using kenyans, instead of kenyans working at home and building their own country?
 
Drama as Kashawa is horn-blown out of town. He had reportedly blocked the road at the Kisii Kaplong junction when persistent hooting from impatient motorists drowned out his speech, forcing him to leave hastily.

 
DeepInYourMind said:
A conducive business environment for the ever growing huge number of educated young people, millennials, gen zii and the coming gen alpha, easy access to capital and elimination of unnecessary regulations that is enforced by corrupt rent seekers..

External investors who recognize kenya as high growth potential investment opportunity allowed to freely invest in the country without being hounded by politicians and their sidekicks for kickbacks, like we saw with the ex journalist in Mudavadi's office the other day, and being frustrated by the courts. They are bound by their countries laws not to facilitate corruption. Many more jobs otherwise created directly and indirectly that govt central planning can never match.

There's unlimited upside that will generate much more.

Why does the govt insist on labour migration so that educated kenyans take up jobs in foreign countries to generate taxes for them, building foreign economies using kenyans, instead of kenyans working at home and building their own country?
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Easy access to capital: The reality is the interest rates are high not only in Kenya but the world over. Specifically in Kenya, interest rates were raised to encourage more inflow of FX. Dollars were flowing out once the FED raised rates, which strengthened the dollar and weakened the shilling which causes other problems. Those macros don't change overnight.

Corruption: Saying 'end corruption' is easy but there is a reason why it never happens. They themselves are guilty of it and they will never prosecute themselves. Even if we say we hang corrupt people, the courts will tell you that is null and void, againsts human rights and the 2010 constitution. We know the song.

Export of labour: Short term vs long term. Where are the jobs to absorb more than 3M jobless Kenyans? When has Kenya generated that many jobs? The short term opportunity is to export that labour, and in turn that labour brings back FX strengthening the shilling. It is common sense. We do not have a shortage of graduates. Those who will be here when the country is industrialized are the ones who will get the jobs.
 
Denis Young said:
Easy access to capital: The reality is the interest rates are high not only in Kenya but the world over. Specifically in Kenya, interest rates were raised to encourage more inflow of FX. Dollars were flowing out once the FED raised rates, which strengthened the dollar and weakened the shilling which causes other problems. Those macros don't change overnight.

Corruption: Saying 'end corruption' is easy but there is a reason why it never happens. They themselves are guilty of it and they will never prosecute themselves. Even if we say we hang corrupt people, the courts will tell you that is null and void, againsts human rights and the 2010 constitution. We know the song.

Export of labour: Short term vs long term. Where are the jobs to absorb more than 3M jobless Kenyans? When has Kenya generated that many jobs? The short term opportunity is to export that labour, and in turn that labour brings back FX strengthening the shilling. It is common sense. We do not have a shortage of graduates. Those who will be here when the country is industrialized are the ones who will get the jobs.
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Na si useme tu, who do you think are those people?
 
QuadroK4000 said:
Na si useme tu, who do you think are those people?
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They all are. Ruto didn't become a billionaire by clean business. Rigathi the same. Raila, Uhuru, Matiangi, Babu Owino was literally caught on CCTV shooting someone in the neck, all the governors past and present. The entirety of the judiciary. How do we prosecute the entire government? Can you tell me?
 
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