#RejectFinanceBill2024

Yes. And you were wrong, wrong, wrong. You have been out of phase with happenings on the ground all this time. When calls to reject the bill went unheeded at Ruto's behest, the calls escalated to removal. That was expected. No politicians were involved in this campaign as some people want to imagine and believe. They would have been uncovered by now. You do not add green firewood to a fire that is already burning great. Baba would have been the first to jump in, but he realized doing so would weaken the fire. That said, many were secretly delighted to see Ruto threatened and frightened while others, like Gachagua, benefited when his enemies within the party were kept busy by the disturbances.

And don't forget that the whole thing was engineered by cool kids behind keyboards. Beware of keyboard generals.
Wrong? I told you this would happen. I said these protestors will become an angry mob. Didn't they? I told you the reform agenda will be lost. Hasn't it? The angry mob is now being retargeted like a missle from parliment to statehouse. The consequences of that are quite obvious. It is like Normandy. You are being sent by the droves to die so as to cause so much consternation in the country, in the world, so that Ruto is pressured out of power.

Who benefits from that? It is 2007 all over again but most of you are so into your feelings you can't even see it.

And btw igniting a loaded fuse is not a challenge if you have resources. People have been angry since Covid. People just needed a nudge. They needed to feel a sense of togetherness, a herd mentality, to give them the confidence to come out on the street. That is why other African states are facing similar protests.
 
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That was a great strategy. Diffuse leadership to everyone so that the silencing of a few does not cripple the campaign. Anyone could generate ideas and propagate them. Members were not depending on the pronouncements of any one individual. And it worked perfectly.
He and hanifa literally presented themselves as leaders of the protest. He told people to occupy parliament but did he even make it to the fence?
 
To those who don't read or try to familiarize themselves with the situation we are in, Bloomberg writes:
“Ruto’s challenge is how else does he achieve the fiscal targets he’s committed to under the IMF program,” said Yvonne Mhango, Africa economist at Bloomberg Economics, referring to a $3.6 billion bailout the country got from the Washington-based lender in 2021. “He has little wiggle room with spending cuts, and the item that is likely to be slashed is capex, which is negative for growth. He can increase borrowing but that’s at a high cost — domestically liquidity is his constraint, as we saw last year.”
Ruto Concedes to Protests, Now He Must Fix Kenya’s Budget
We invited them in 2021, how is this a KK regime's problem? Why do you want to propagate that our problems started yesterday?
 
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To those who don't read or try to familiarize themselves with the situation we are in, Bloomberg writes:
“Ruto’s challenge is how else does he achieve the fiscal targets he’s committed to under the IMF program,” said Yvonne Mhango, Africa economist at Bloomberg Economics, referring to a $3.6 billion bailout the country got from the Washington-based lender in 2021. “He has little wiggle room with spending cuts, and the item that is likely to be slashed is capex, which is negative for growth. He can increase borrowing but that’s at a high cost — domestically liquidity is his constraint, as we saw last year.”
Ruto Concedes to Protests, Now He Must Fix Kenya’s Budget
We invited them in 2021, how is this a KK regime's problem? Why do you want to propagate that our problems started yesterday?
Isn't Ruto on record saying we can afford our debt?
 
Hey @wrongturn, @Mwalimu-G The New York Times is compromised.
Behind the Unrest in Kenya, a Staggering and Painful National Debt
Kenya, the fastest-growing economy in Africa, is on the brink of a fiscal calamity. Across Africa, nations are spending more on interest than on health or education.


The immediate trigger for the raging protest that gripped Kenya’s capital on Tuesday was a raft of proposed tax increases — additional shillings that ordinary citizens would owe their government. The underlying cause, though, are the billions of dollars their government owes its creditors.
Kenya has the fastest growing economy in Africa and a vibrant business center. But its government is desperate to stave off default. The country’s staggering $80 billion in domestic and foreign public debt accounts for nearly three-quarters of Kenya’s entire economic output, according to a recent report from the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development. Interest payments alone are eating up 27 percent of the revenue collected.
The Kenyan president, William Ruto, had promoted the tax bill as necessary to avoid defaulting on the country’s debt, but the violent reaction to Parliament’s approval prompted Mr. Ruto to abruptly reverse course on Wednesday and reject the legislation he had asked for. “Listening keenly to the people of Kenya,” he said, “I will not sign the 2024 finance bill, and it shall subsequently be withdrawn.” He proposed a 14-day period of discussions to chart a new economic course.
Mr. Ruto’s turnaround may have temporarily quieted protests, but it leaves the country’s finances more precarious than before. Just two weeks ago, the International Monetary Fund and Kenyan authorities had reached an agreement on a package of comprehensive reforms and tax increases needed to get the country on a more stable financial footing.

The policy review, required when the I.M.F. lends money to distressed nations, warned of a “significant shortfall in tax collection” and a deteriorating fiscal outlook. I.M.F. lending to the troubled East African nation now totals $3.6 billion.
The type of debts that are causing misery in Kenya can be found across Africa. More than half the people on the continent live in countries that spend more on interest payments than they do on health or education.
“The kids in this generation that won’t have education today are going to be scarred for life,” said Joseph Stiglitz, a former chief economist at the World Bank. He noted that there had been increasing evidence that “countries who go through a crisis don’t recover — maybe ever — to where they would have been.”
The global debt crisis is the relatively bland label used to describe the brutal loops of unsustainable borrowing and bailouts that have long ensnared developing nations.
In Kenya’s case, its government took out vast loans after a period of economic expansion in the early 2000s to cover the costs of infrastructure projects, including roads, railways, massive dams and rural electrification. This latest global debt crisis cycle, however, which is considered to be the worst on record, was precipitated by events far beyond any single country’s control.

The deadly coronavirus pandemic shuttered already fragile economies. The sudden need to provide vaccines, medical care, protective clothing to hospital workers and subsidies to people unable to afford food or cooking oil further depleted government bank accounts.
A war between Russia and Ukraine along with sanctions imposed by the United States and its allies caused global food and energy prices to soar. The wealthiest countries then corralled spiraling inflation by raising interest rates, causing debt payments to balloon.
On top of those woes, recent floods in Kenya destroyed infrastructure and agricultural land and displaced thousands of people.
M. Ayhan Kose, deputy chief economist at the World Bank, said this month that “40 percent of developing countries, in one way or another, are vulnerable to a debt crisis.”

Finding a solution to the current debt trap that poor and middle-income nations find themselves in is harder than ever.
Thousands of creditors have replaced the handful of big banks in places like New York and London that used to handle most countries’ foreign debt. One of the most consequential new players is China, which has been lending billions of dollars to governments in Africa and around the world.
Starting over a decade ago, China elbowed its way into the ranks of major lenders to emerging nations and the size of its total loan portfolio now rivals the I.M.F. and the World Bank.
Altogether, Nairobi owes $35 billion to foreign lenders. The World Bank is the country’s largest creditor.
At the end of 2022, Kenya owed at least $6.7 billion to China, according to the I.M.F. It owed another $7.1 billion to bondholders, $3.8 billion to industrialized countries, $3.5 billion to the African Development Bank and $1.9 billion to international commercial banks.

To avoid default, countries like Kenya are compelled to borrow even more money, only to find that their total debt burden grows even heavier. And the bigger the debt, the less inclined lenders are to offer additional financing.
China has cut back its lending in the past several years, after concluding that it was taking too many risks by lending to low-income countries. It has collected on previous loans and has issued fewer new loans.
It is not the only player to pull back from Kenya. Japan and France as well as big commercial banks in Italy, Germany and Britain have also trimmed their exposure.
This month, Pope Francis convened a meeting at the Vatican and called for debt forgiveness and a rethinking of the world’s financial architecture to manage the growing crisis.
Unmanageable debt, he said, robs “millions of people of the possibility of a decent future.”
It took Zambia four years to work out a deal with its creditors after it first defaulted. Ghana, after defaulting on billions of dollars of debt last year, reached an agreement only this week with private creditors to restructure $13 billion worth of loans. And Ethiopia is struggling to work out an agreement.

In February, Kenya paid more than 10 percent on international bonds to have the cash to cover a payment for a $2 billion Eurobond from 2014 coming due this month.
The World Bank, the I.M.F. and the African Development Bank have all offered lifelines and increased their lending to Kenya to fill the gap when no one else would. But they, in turn, want the government to take steps, like raising taxes and cutting spending, to stabilize the country’s finances. In a nod to the toll such belt tightening would require, the recent agreement with the I.M.F. noted that the country also needed to strengthen its social safety net.
“How do you fill that tax revenue void?” said David Shinn, a former U.S. foreign service officer in Africa and a lecturer at George Washington University’s Elliott School of International Affairs. “When you borrow money at an even higher rate than what you’re paying off, you’re digging an even deeper hole.”
In May, Mr. Ruto said he was confident that Kenyans would eventually come around to supporting his actions. “I have been very candid that I cannot continue to borrow money to pay salaries,” he said in an interview. “And I have explained to the people of Kenya that we have a choice either to borrow money or to collect our own taxes.”
As this week’s protest illustrated, that choice does not seem to be one that the public is so far willing to accept.
 
But how significant will trimming that kind of budget bring?

Have we tried it and it failed to work? Why do you down play it?As the government think of long term solution on how to expand the tax base?
Have they tried to get rid of the many duplicate parastatals?
wastage in government through seminars and overbudgeted procurement? many offices? why do you think these are small amounts?
Of course it can't clear the debt but reduce it? trim the huge allowances?
Your expert ndii said there's a lot of wastage in government,
Tuliambiwa tusiandike long shairi .
 
Hey @wrongturn, @Mwalimu-G The Newyork Times is compromised.
Behind the Unrest in Kenya, a Staggering and Painful National Debt
Kenya, the fastest-growing economy in Africa, is on the brink of a fiscal calamity. Across Africa, nations are spending more on interest than on health or education.


The immediate trigger for the raging protest that gripped Kenya’s capital on Tuesday was a raft of proposed tax increases — additional shillings that ordinary citizens would owe their government. The underlying cause, though, are the billions of dollars their government owes its creditors.
Kenya has the fastest growing economy in Africa and a vibrant business center. But its government is desperate to stave off default. The country’s staggering $80 billion in domestic and foreign public debt accounts for nearly three-quarters of Kenya’s entire economic output, according to a recent report from the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development. Interest payments alone are eating up 27 percent of the revenue collected.
The Kenyan president, William Ruto, had promoted the tax bill as necessary to avoid defaulting on the country’s debt, but the violent reaction to Parliament’s approval prompted Mr. Ruto to abruptly reverse course on Wednesday and reject the legislation he had asked for. “Listening keenly to the people of Kenya,” he said, “I will not sign the 2024 finance bill, and it shall subsequently be withdrawn.” He proposed a 14-day period of discussions to chart a new economic course.
Mr. Ruto’s turnaround may have temporarily quieted protests, but it leaves the country’s finances more precarious than before. Just two weeks ago, the International Monetary Fund and Kenyan authorities had reached an agreement on a package of comprehensive reforms and tax increases needed to get the country on a more stable financial footing.

The policy review, required when the I.M.F. lends money to distressed nations, warned of a “significant shortfall in tax collection” and a deteriorating fiscal outlook. I.M.F. lending to the troubled East African nation now totals $3.6 billion.
The type of debts that are causing misery in Kenya can be found across Africa. More than half the people on the continent live in countries that spend more on interest payments than they do on health or education.
“The kids in this generation that won’t have education today are going to be scarred for life,” said Joseph Stiglitz, a former chief economist at the World Bank. He noted that there had been increasing evidence that “countries who go through a crisis don’t recover — maybe ever — to where they would have been.”
The global debt crisis is the relatively bland label used to describe the brutal loops of unsustainable borrowing and bailouts that have long ensnared developing nations.
In Kenya’s case, its government took out vast loans after a period of economic expansion in the early 2000s to cover the costs of infrastructure projects, including roads, railways, massive dams and rural electrification. This latest global debt crisis cycle, however, which is considered to be the worst on record, was precipitated by events far beyond any single country’s control.

The deadly coronavirus pandemic shuttered already fragile economies. The sudden need to provide vaccines, medical care, protective clothing to hospital workers and subsidies to people unable to afford food or cooking oil further depleted government bank accounts.
A war between Russia and Ukraine along with sanctions imposed by the United States and its allies caused global food and energy prices to soar. The wealthiest countries then corralled spiraling inflation by raising interest rates, causing debt payments to balloon.
On top of those woes, recent floods in Kenya destroyed infrastructure and agricultural land and displaced thousands of people.
M. Ayhan Kose, deputy chief economist at the World Bank, said this month that “40 percent of developing countries, in one way or another, are vulnerable to a debt crisis.”

Finding a solution to the current debt trap that poor and middle-income nations find themselves in is harder than ever.
Thousands of creditors have replaced the handful of big banks in places like New York and London that used to handle most countries’ foreign debt. One of the most consequential new players is China, which has been lending billions of dollars to governments in Africa and around the world.
Starting over a decade ago, China elbowed its way into the ranks of major lenders to emerging nations and the size of its total loan portfolio now rivals the I.M.F. and the World Bank.
Altogether, Nairobi owes $35 billion to foreign lenders. The World Bank is the country’s largest creditor.
At the end of 2022, Kenya owed at least $6.7 billion to China, according to the I.M.F. It owed another $7.1 billion to bondholders, $3.8 billion to industrialized countries, $3.5 billion to the African Development Bank and $1.9 billion to international commercial banks.

To avoid default, countries like Kenya are compelled to borrow even more money, only to find that their total debt burden grows even heavier. And the bigger the debt, the less inclined lenders are to offer additional financing.
China has cut back its lending in the past several years, after concluding that it was taking too many risks by lending to low-income countries. It has collected on previous loans and has issued fewer new loans.
It is not the only player to pull back from Kenya. Japan and France as well as big commercial banks in Italy, Germany and Britain have also trimmed their exposure.
This month, Pope Francis convened a meeting at the Vatican and called for debt forgiveness and a rethinking of the world’s financial architecture to manage the growing crisis.
Unmanageable debt, he said, robs “millions of people of the possibility of a decent future.”
It took Zambia four years to work out a deal with its creditors after it first defaulted. Ghana, after defaulting on billions of dollars of debt last year, reached an agreement only this week with private creditors to restructure $13 billion worth of loans. And Ethiopia is struggling to work out an agreement.

In February, Kenya paid more than 10 percent on international bonds to have the cash to cover a payment for a $2 billion Eurobond from 2014 coming due this month.
The World Bank, the I.M.F. and the African Development Bank have all offered lifelines and increased their lending to Kenya to fill the gap when no one else would. But they, in turn, want the government to take steps, like raising taxes and cutting spending, to stabilize the country’s finances. In a nod to the toll such belt tightening would require, the recent agreement with the I.M.F. noted that the country also needed to strengthen its social safety net.
“How do you fill that tax revenue void?” said David Shinn, a former U.S. foreign service officer in Africa and a lecturer at George Washington University’s Elliott School of International Affairs. “When you borrow money at an even higher rate than what you’re paying off, you’re digging an even deeper hole.”
In May, Mr. Ruto said he was confident that Kenyans would eventually come around to supporting his actions. “I have been very candid that I cannot continue to borrow money to pay salaries,” he said in an interview. “And I have explained to the people of Kenya that we have a choice either to borrow money or to collect our own taxes.”
As this week’s protest illustrated, that choice does not seem to be one that the public is so far willing to accept.

These are scare tactics by colonizers, have we tried defaulting?
 
Nashidwa which kind of ignorance this is bana. Why would anybody in his right mind wish we default?
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This is what most people are. Nobody wants to educate themselves. We have all been there.
 
There are options.

Restructuring is defaulting. If you owed money to a bank and then told them you cannot pay, so you restructure interest payments, do you think any other bank will consider you credit worthy? Do you think any other bank will give you a loan? That is what happens when a country restructures. Kenya won't be able to access credit and if it does, it will be at extortionist terms.
 
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