David Ndii on Revenue Sharing

He has some points but that part with threats of divorce is stupid. I agree revenue allocation should be based on needs not land mass or population density. We need more hospitals in an area that is highly populated and we need more roads in areas that are sparsely populated. But I know uhuru is trying to please highly populated sections of the country to win back support, this proposed allocation formulation is a political exercise that will avail more funds to political leaders in this counties.
 
Field Marshal said:
One of the determining factors in child mortality is CULTURE NOT Money. How money solves cultural issues is lost to me................
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I am with you 100 pc on this one. One of the proven methods of reducing child mortality is educating mothers. You don't marry off 12 year olds and collect maslaha when they are defiled then expect to reduce child mortality.
Another thing about the Northern Kenya communities is their culture where the elite engage whole poor families as herdsmen - the father and son herd the cattle and camels while daughters shepherd goats and sheep while the elite prosper in business in major towns and their children go to top range schools; further widening the poor/rich divide.
The elite who talk about marginalization are themselves marginalizing the poor in their community.
 
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Mwalimu-G said:
I am with you 100 pc on this one. One of the proven methods of reducing child mortality is educating mothers. You don't marry off 12 year olds and collect maslaha when they are defiled then expect to reduce child mortality.
Another thing about the Northern Kenya communities is their culture where the elite engage whole poor families as herdsmen - the father and son herd the cattle and camels while daughters shepherd goats and sheep while the elite prosper in business in major towns and their children go to top range schools; further widening the poor rich divide.
The elite who talk about marginalization are themselves marginalizing the poor in their community.
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I'll give you another example, at the risk of being called a tribalist. Luo Nyanza has the highest child mortality rates in Kenya despite having a fairly well educated populace. Why? CULTURE. Despite concerted civic education on HIV - one of the greatest contributers to child mortality in recent times - cultural practices have seen to it that HIV prevalence in Migori and Homa Bay stubbornly stick at 25-30% among the 15-60 year-olds. Watu wameambiwa watumie condoms, hata wakapatiwa free, hawataki. Wale wameambukizwa wamepewa dawa bure hawataki (if you saw the pictures of the late Lady Maureen you know what am talking about). Watu mameambiwa wawache some cultures kama wife inheritance hawataki. Wanasema HIV ni chira. So, 40 years since we first diagnosed the disease, it is still killing us. YOU THINK THROWING MONEY AT IT WILL REDUCE CHILD MORTALITY? NO!

What is needed in this situation is leaders from this region, together and in unison, to go around teaching the wananchi new cultural mores. A guy like Raila can literally do more for child survival than GoK can. If Baba consistently spoke against wife inheritance and attributing Aids to chira which can only be cured by witchdoctors and not ARVs, he would save many more people than MoH and its money.

But of course this would defeat the victimhood narrative.................
 
Field Marshal said:
1. Turkana oil
I thought this was the subject of a long-drawn discussion on revenue sharing which reached a consensus on the percentages the local population was supposed to get? Meanwhile, do people of Central get similar deals? Do the people of Kiambu have a similar arrangement for all the Carbon dioxide used in bottled drinks all around Kenya which is mined in Lari? Do the people of Murang'a have a similar deal for all the water piped to serve Nairobi's 4 million people?

2. Gulana-Kulalu
Say what? You mean the maize will be used to feed the people of Central or Nairobi? Won't it, in all probability, be used as food aid for the same food-insecure regions that Ndii is ostensibly championing?

3. Marsabit Electricity
Marsabit has benefitted from one of the most extensive electrification programmes the country has seen THROUGH MINI-GRIDS. Again using the Kiambu and Murang'a water analogy, do peoples of these countries benefit directly from the projects meant to supply Nairobi? NO! They benefit from LOCAL water projects meant for them.

4. So, the same Uhuru who is unpopular as a skunk in Central for 'forgetting' the region is driving a Kikuyu hegemonic agenda, helped no less by his bratha Raila through BBI? Do I really need to comment on this?

5. Look again at the political rantings in this 'economic' treatise, eti colonialism, divorce, and secession. Are these the rational thoughts of a sane individual?

Ndii is an angry, bitter idiologue who's pathology largely emanates from the fact that he is unrecognised among his ethnic Gikuyu. He went to Oxford, and we should worship the very ground he walks on right? NOT IN CENTRAL. Sisi si watu wa Engineer This or Professa That. Sisi ni watu wa 'umefanya nini kwa ground?' His animus against his own people can very easily be understood. He is unrecognised at home and feted in say, Kisumu. Daktaaari.

His perennial threats of secession are juvenile and imbecilic, just like the threats of a jaded wife to kill herself or leave a marriage. It gives the impression he has a vagina.
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Galana kulalu is no where near Marsabit
 
Ameongea point but in very general terms, sijaona anything on how to solve the impase. Vita iko ni how to weight those needs in the division
You have a bag of money, 300billion
You have 47 counties with needs,
  • education
  • health
  • infrastructure

if you give infrastructure a high weight of course more money will go to the marginalised counties. Give education a big weight and highly populous counties take the cake home.
 
mzeiya said:
Hapa Coast inaweza tunyorosha proper
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Tourism in Coast pays more taxes than Agriculture in central. Plus you have 2 ports, minerals and agricultural potential. You just need good leaders and the Pwani country will take off
 
AU5 said:
He already gave the agricultural potential of that place which can be exploited to feed the country.
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When he says Marsabit has agricultural potential I wonder if he has ever been to Marsabit...and if he has he must have flown into and out of the ten kilometre wide island around Mt Marsabit where even coffee is grown:ROFLMAO:.
A quick google search would have told him the rainfall average in most of the expansive county (includes Chalbi Desert!) is 836 mm which is below his 1000mm threshold for agricultural potentiality.

Sometimes we read things and keep quiet.
 
mzeiya said:
I've been to 45 of our 47 counties and Marsabit and Garissa have enormous agricultural potential especially due to underground water in the form of aquifers.
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Ndio tunauliza how many of those deep wells did the governors drill with the equalization fund last five years; at least to start with the elimination of food insecurity which is the first step of any rural development...
 
Mwalimu-G said:
Ndio tunauliza how many of those deep wells did the governors drill with the equalization fund last five years; at least to start with the elimination of food insecurity which is the first step of any rural development...
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You have a point. It's mostly done by NGOs and other non-profits
 
mzeiya said:
You have a point. It's mostly done by NGOs and other non-profits
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I know Marsabit and Wajir intimately, in fact the entire Northern Kenya with the exception of Turkana though I have visited it a number of times. The dynamics there need more than a scholar in a revolving chair in an air conditioned office in Hurlingham who only knows the counties from a map.
Do you know in some villages the management of the borehole (sunk by UNICEF no less!) revolve around groups of families who eat all the revenue such that when they hand over to the next group at the end of the year the account normally has zero. When the pump runs its life there's no money for replacement so they start writing proposals again.
 
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shocks said:
Ameongea point but in very general terms, sijaona anything on how to solve the impase. Vita iko ni how to weight those needs in the division
You have a bag of money, 300billion
You have 47 counties with needs,
  • education
  • health
  • infrastructure

if you give infrastructure a high weight of course more money will go to the marginalised counties. Give education a big weight and highly populous counties take the cake home.
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We wouldnt have this problem if there was a deadline after which marginalised counties would be declared equal to the rest, what we are doing is just sending money without clear objectives and goals, Governors on the other hand are wasteful and ostentatious perhaps because they think they have an endless supply of billions.

The CRA should investigate what it woulf take to bring marginalised areas to the levels developed areas are at, cost it and create a timeline over which to address the gap, that should spare us the wrangles at the Senate.
 
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