Ngimanene na Muchere
Elder Lister
Nitawaambia ukweli ambao hawaambiwi shule eg Kenyatta never fought, he was a sell out. Njonjo was no statesman na zinginezo mingi
The Ndeiya Oracle MIT predicted this. Njonjo is dead
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QuadroK4000
Elder Lister
... Na wewe uwache kujitetea na mimi, nani amekwambia sijui history?
@Meria momoche nga'la chechan.
Kunywa kilalo pole pole
It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
Finally something that makes sense
Budspencer
Elder Lister
The family pulled a fast one on the politicians. We were guaranteed to hear "I was the last man he spoke to na alisema nisimame tena..." na nyef nyef zinginezo.
alumni kina @Okiya wako wapi
Ubongo
Elder Lister
Wewe washaaa
It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
Tell me umemuita mtu bladifakeen kichwa uji mzito?... Na wewe uwache kujitetea na mimi, nani amekwambia sijui history?
@Meria momoche nga'la chechan.
Kunywa kilalo pole pole
Montecarlo
Elder Lister
We agreed,papa, that this year hutatubeba ushudren.....Sasa you want to re-write history? You were there kama a tea boy in the 1962 Parliament haka kamtu kaki ensure Jommo was an imperial president and you type such? Sawasawa
wrongturn
Elder Lister
This article was written in 2019.
Kibaki and Njonjo crossed swords right at independence. Njonjo didn’t bother to conceal whose interests he served – those of the old colonialists and the expatriate community.
He was an Englishman in black skin. As AG, he never liked or believed in Africans, and made it his business to ensure no black person came near gaining influence in the Kenyan Judiciary.
He also seized every opportunity to frustrate budding African lawyers whose mastery of the English language, let alone the law, he doubted.
In commerce and industry, Njonjo was chief promoter and protector of British conglomerates, as he sabotaged African enterprises.
One-time chairman of the Transport Licensing Board Joseph Gatuguta once related to me how Njonjo made difficult his efforts to Africanise lucrative aspects of the local transport sector.
Gatuguta would deny permit renewals to expatriates to pave the way for local investors, only for Njonjo to have a British expatriate judge overturn his decisions in favour of foreigners.
Gatuguta had to cunningly wait until Njonjo was out of the country to sneak to State House and explain to Mzee Kenyatta the challenges he was facing.
The President saw the point and Njonjo’s Mzungu was ordered out of the country and back to wherever he came from.
On the contrary, Kibaki, as minister for Commerce and later Finance and Economic Planning, was in the driver’s seat of the massive Africanisation programme in newly independent Kenya.
He was at the helm when several state corporations were established to expedite takeover by Africans in Kenya’s commercial, finance and industrial segments.
They included the Agricultural Finance Corporation, Agriculture Development Corporations, and Industrial and Commercial Development Corporation.
LEADERSHIP
In terms of style, the two men were as incongruent as repellent poles. Njonjo believed in politics of blackmail and coercion.
Like the legendary American Federal Bureau of Investigation bulldog J. Edgar Hoover, he’d collect damning dossier on opponents and selectively use it to whip them into submission through blackmail.
Kibaki, on his part, believed in tolerance. A good illustration is when then Marxist-leaning author Ngugi wa Thiong’o wrote Petals of Blood (1977), which some saw as provocation to the Western-leaning Kenyatta government.
Surprisingly, Kibaki, then Finance minister, agreed to launch Ngugi’s book and made a speech that became subject of whispers in government circles.
He’d said: “It is true writers all over the world want to write and comment on what is going on in their own country. But one of the most terrible things about the modern world is how many writers have had to immigrate to another country in order to be able to write on what is going on in their country…
"It is a tragedy, because it means that societies are becoming intolerant… true freedom in any democratic system should be that those with a different view of the society we live in must be able to paint what picture they see so that we can have many, many pictures of the Kenya we are living in now.”
NGUGI'S OPPOSERS
In contrast, five months later, Njonjo, in the company of an Anglican cleric from Kiambu, flew to State House, Mombasa, and read to President Kenyatta passages from Petals of Blood, and from Ngugi’s vernacular play Ngaahika Ndenda (I will marry when I want).
They used that to convince the President how “dangerous” the author was and needed to be detained without trial, which was done in a matter of hours!
Ironically, it is Njonjo who recommended to President Moi that he appoint Kibaki vice president in 1978.
However, the two soon fell out when it turned out Njonjo merely wanted Kibaki to warm the seat for him, as he (Njonjo) was on his way to State House.
To angle himself for takeover, Njonjo resigned as a civil servant and joined electoral politics.
In the ensuing battle of nerves with the vice president, Kibaki, completely out of character, made a scathing attack on Njonjo whom he accused of allocating himself role of a “Nyayo-meter” to measure who was more “nyayo” (loyal) to the President than the other.
Long after Njonjo was eased from mainstream politics after falling out with President Moi, his hostility towards Kibaki continued, and has remained intact.
At the dawn of multiparty politics in 1992, Njonjo, in a surprise about-turn, threw his lot with presidential candidate Jaramogi Oginga Odinga (Ford Kenya), largely because of his loathing for Kibaki (Democratic Party), who appeared set for victory before Kenneth Matiba (Ford Asili) appeared at the last minute to upset the apple-cart.
And in the 2007 election, Njonjo openly backed Raila Odinga and perhaps keen to see Kibaki make history as a one-term president!
The mutual dislike between the two Muthaiga neighbours apparently extends to their favourite pastimes. Njonjo loves swimming and does mandatory three laps daily even in his old age.
Not so for Kibaki, who has never worn swimming gear in his life and believes swimming was meant for fish and other amphibians.
His cup of tea is golf, and though age no longer allows him to tee off, he still goes to the golf club just to enjoy the scenery and catch up with old buddies.
In contrast, Njonjo has never understood how grown-up men and women should spend a whole day keeping eye on and clubbing some little ball!
Kibaki and Njonjo: Two Muthaiga neighbours who don’t see eye to eye
Kibaki and Njonjo crossed swords right at independence.
nation.africa
Aviator
Elder Lister
Now this is the Njonjo I know, not the one Guoka is trying to sanitize.This article was written in 2019.
Kibaki and Njonjo crossed swords right at independence. Njonjo didn’t bother to conceal whose interests he served – those of the old colonialists and the expatriate community.
He was an Englishman in black skin. As AG, he never liked or believed in Africans, and made it his business to ensure no black person came near gaining influence in the Kenyan Judiciary.
He also seized every opportunity to frustrate budding African lawyers whose mastery of the English language, let alone the law, he doubted.
In commerce and industry, Njonjo was chief promoter and protector of British conglomerates, as he sabotaged African enterprises.
One-time chairman of the Transport Licensing Board Joseph Gatuguta once related to me how Njonjo made difficult his efforts to Africanise lucrative aspects of the local transport sector.
Gatuguta would deny permit renewals to expatriates to pave the way for local investors, only for Njonjo to have a British expatriate judge overturn his decisions in favour of foreigners.
Gatuguta had to cunningly wait until Njonjo was out of the country to sneak to State House and explain to Mzee Kenyatta the challenges he was facing.
The President saw the point and Njonjo’s Mzungu was ordered out of the country and back to wherever he came from.
On the contrary, Kibaki, as minister for Commerce and later Finance and Economic Planning, was in the driver’s seat of the massive Africanisation programme in newly independent Kenya.
He was at the helm when several state corporations were established to expedite takeover by Africans in Kenya’s commercial, finance and industrial segments.
They included the Agricultural Finance Corporation, Agriculture Development Corporations, and Industrial and Commercial Development Corporation.
LEADERSHIP
In terms of style, the two men were as incongruent as repellent poles. Njonjo believed in politics of blackmail and coercion.
Like the legendary American Federal Bureau of Investigation bulldog J. Edgar Hoover, he’d collect damning dossier on opponents and selectively use it to whip them into submission through blackmail.
Kibaki, on his part, believed in tolerance. A good illustration is when then Marxist-leaning author Ngugi wa Thiong’o wrote Petals of Blood (1977), which some saw as provocation to the Western-leaning Kenyatta government.
Surprisingly, Kibaki, then Finance minister, agreed to launch Ngugi’s book and made a speech that became subject of whispers in government circles.
He’d said: “It is true writers all over the world want to write and comment on what is going on in their own country. But one of the most terrible things about the modern world is how many writers have had to immigrate to another country in order to be able to write on what is going on in their country…
"It is a tragedy, because it means that societies are becoming intolerant… true freedom in any democratic system should be that those with a different view of the society we live in must be able to paint what picture they see so that we can have many, many pictures of the Kenya we are living in now.”
NGUGI'S OPPOSERS
In contrast, five months later, Njonjo, in the company of an Anglican cleric from Kiambu, flew to State House, Mombasa, and read to President Kenyatta passages from Petals of Blood, and from Ngugi’s vernacular play Ngaahika Ndenda (I will marry when I want).
They used that to convince the President how “dangerous” the author was and needed to be detained without trial, which was done in a matter of hours!
Ironically, it is Njonjo who recommended to President Moi that he appoint Kibaki vice president in 1978.
However, the two soon fell out when it turned out Njonjo merely wanted Kibaki to warm the seat for him, as he (Njonjo) was on his way to State House.
To angle himself for takeover, Njonjo resigned as a civil servant and joined electoral politics.
In the ensuing battle of nerves with the vice president, Kibaki, completely out of character, made a scathing attack on Njonjo whom he accused of allocating himself role of a “Nyayo-meter” to measure who was more “nyayo” (loyal) to the President than the other.
Long after Njonjo was eased from mainstream politics after falling out with President Moi, his hostility towards Kibaki continued, and has remained intact.
At the dawn of multiparty politics in 1992, Njonjo, in a surprise about-turn, threw his lot with presidential candidate Jaramogi Oginga Odinga (Ford Kenya), largely because of his loathing for Kibaki (Democratic Party), who appeared set for victory before Kenneth Matiba (Ford Asili) appeared at the last minute to upset the apple-cart.
And in the 2007 election, Njonjo openly backed Raila Odinga and perhaps keen to see Kibaki make history as a one-term president!
The mutual dislike between the two Muthaiga neighbours apparently extends to their favourite pastimes. Njonjo loves swimming and does mandatory three laps daily even in his old age.
Not so for Kibaki, who has never worn swimming gear in his life and believes swimming was meant for fish and other amphibians.
His cup of tea is golf, and though age no longer allows him to tee off, he still goes to the golf club just to enjoy the scenery and catch up with old buddies.
In contrast, Njonjo has never understood how grown-up men and women should spend a whole day keeping eye on and clubbing some little ball!
Kibaki and Njonjo: Two Muthaiga neighbours who don’t see eye to eye
Kibaki and Njonjo crossed swords right at independence.
Meria
Elder Lister
TRIBUTE: NJONJO BEST QUOTES
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1. My constituents (servants) eat sausage and bacon for breakfast from fridges not rotten fish from the dirty lake
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2. I can never step onto that dirty land of Nyanza because it's cholera infested
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3. (To Shikuku) Some politicians speak while spitting as if they smoke something before coming to parliament
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4. The Kikuyu mispronunciation of "L" and "R" is just laziness. Nobody circumcised their tongues.
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5. Kenyan jail conditions should be made tougher. Kikuyus mistake it for boarding schools.
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6. The Day the East African community will collapse, I will toast red wine.
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7. Dr Robert Ouko and Dr Munyua Waiyaki have this annoying habit of attending these useless OAU meetings.
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8. Luhyas and Kisii have turned their wives into tv. When the whole nation is watching tv they are already in bed hence the population explosion .
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9. Kenyans should face more economic hardship so that they run at the sight of a woman like Ugandans do.
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10. Tanzania is nothing but a man-eat-nothing society.
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11. There is nothing special about being a Vice President like Mwai Kibaki.
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12. We should close the law school because we do not need more Lawyers in Kenya, if we are not careful all thieves will turn to practising law.
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13. Luo ministers should learn Swahili! What is it they are revolting against.
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14. I am against president (Kenyatta) speaking vulgar language. It will encourage coast people into more homosexuality.
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15. I can never board a plane piloted by Africans.
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16. Moi is a Kalenjin. They are only good for herding cattle.
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17. Muthemba's mother and my mother are cousins. If that makes me his cousin then I don't know what cousin is.
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18. I don't give interviews to journalists in jeans and chains. Journalist must wear suits to my functions.
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19. Western Kenya people are so black. When I saw that Hon Mwangale advert in the papers, I thought he was dead.
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DISCLAIMER. (VAR)
I have not made referrence to Nation newspaper or the Hansard. Most of these quotes may not be verbatim but the meaning is accurate as I was living in that time and it became banter with fellow recipients. For example by servant the meaning was to underscore opulent Kikuyu area is compared to the areas of his detractors say Ugenya, Butere etc. It was not merely his house-helps. Or Nyanza by then loosely included the greater Nyanza that included old North Nyanza and Kisii and not merely Luo Nyanza that excludes Kisii and western province. Below I have tried re enact (VAR) how the quotes arose so that you can appreciate. However because we hated him back with the same intensity the anger may have overtaken me somewhat but I can't apologise.
Notes.
1. The comment is little bit hazy whether he meant his servants or constituents. Either way the loftiness is underscored.
2. I can never step into Nyanza because it's cholera infested was a followup to why he can not shake hands with Luo MPs .
3. Self explanatory
4. I believe this fight came from the ethnically imbalanced judiciary or AGs chambers . He was putting forward the pronunciation and eloquence as an issue that disqualifies Kikuyus.
5. Self explanatory. He had a loathing for criminal ways
6. Self explanatory but he did. His onslaught into EAC and anything Africa was passionate, consistent and persistent. The death of EAC is not Idi Amin. ANC fear of Kenya stems from the fear of Israeli infested Nairobi.
7. He despised those two for reshaping Kenyas imperialistic foreign affairs policy especially severing relations with South Africa. All the hatred ANC and Mandela had for Kenya should be packed and forwarded to Njonjo house.
8. This debate was after the census where some regions showed population explosion.
9. Follow up on census debate
10. Scoffing at CCM afternews bulletin propaganda of 'hivyo ndivyo ilivyo' that branded Kenya a man-eat-man society with 10 millionaires and 10 million beggars
11. The fight over 10% withholding tax and capital gains tax that Njonjo thought was prohibitive. Also Kibaki had earlier branded Europeans expatriates as rejects in their own countries who morally should not be earning 10 times more for the same role.
12. Njonjo was fearful that Kenyan law profession will turn into a rat race like India where lawyers sweep the streets and engage in fictitious litigation
13. The obvious. The debate to allow Swahili as a language of debate in Parliament. The highlight was when a coastal mp Hon Madhubuti branded Hon Onyango Midika as speaking 'oswahili' and constantly mimicking his Luo accent. To which Hon Midika retorted with "Honorable 'MadhuCHIETHA' iwinjo!" The Mp cried foul that he has been called excrement. Hon Midika refused to withdraw. The rest is history.
14. A little earlier before Mzee defended his age by "Ask Mama Ngina". He was admonishing a very easy going coastal crowd to work hard instead of drinking palm wine and got irritated when they kept on slyly answering " Tuko nyuma yako Baba". To Njonjo's disgust an angry Mzee went on a tirade of sly vulgar talk. "Mnataka nini nyuma yangu. Najua tabia zenu nyinyi watu wa pwani. Nataka tuwe bega Kwa bega" and the hilarious coastal crowd went onto even a higher octane of laughter with satisfaction that Mzee was at the end of their sly joke. But Njonjo was seething
15. Oooh God. This mans self loathing was unparalleled. I am sorry I will not defend this.
Field Marshal
Elder Lister
Niwacheni pris......................
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
And they did...in droves.
Aviator
Elder Lister
Don't try to sanitize him.
May his soul rest where souls of traitors rest (if they ever do)
Meria
Elder Lister
Young_Turk
Elder Lister
Never liked the guy.
But I whole heartedly agree. Running a country in those early days and living the life that he has, I have a lot of mixed feelings.
But those feelings gravitate more towards disappointment.
Kenya was never supposed to succeed.
That we have come this far is a testament of our national spirit.
It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
I blame him for giving us Moi....
Montecarlo
Elder Lister
Read that statement and tell me if it is similar to ,'all lawyers will turn into thieves'.....who was a thief who eventually persued law....Kiriamiti? Wacucu? Kinyonga?.....
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
Do you live in an egg?