Raila AU & Ruto Second Term
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Ile pesa ODM wamelipa Nabii Iko In trillions
Denis Young
Elder Lister
You are struggling to come to terms with the fact that Raila sold you and your Azimio devotees down the river. You can't accept that all Raila cares about is Raila. He did it to Moi, Kibaki, Uhuru and now in his sunset years he has guaranteed himself a nice retirement package abroad.
Tag me when Martha Karua changes the tune.
Do a simple search on this website and the other village and you'll know I supported Raila because of Karua.
As for you, I'm hoping you're enjoying the fruits of punishing Uhuru
Denis Young
Elder Lister
You were supporting the presidential candidate because of his deputy? Surely, if Ruto's and Rigathi's predicaments haven't taught you anything yet, deputies have no power other than that which is delegated by the president.
I voted Ruto because of his agenda. I knew the circumstances then and I understand them now. Corrective measures will always be painful. Those who were expecting to cruise the debt default were backing the Raila horse that was promising 6k every month. Ati they were going to get the money from stoping corruption.
Ata kama ni naivety, please msitubebe utoto.
You were supporting the presidential candidate because of his deputy? Surely, if Ruto's and Rigathi's predicaments haven't taught you anything yet, deputies have no power other than that which is delegated by the president.
I voted Ruto because of his agenda. I knew the circumstances then and I understand them now. Corrective measures will always be painful. Those who were expecting to cruise the debt default were backing the Raila horse that was promising 6k every month. Ati they were going to get the money from stoping corruption.
Ata kama ni naivety, please msitubebe utoto.
I supported Matha Karua and I ain't ashamed.
Explain to us the agenda of the professional thief that you voted for so we can understand better.
Denis Young
Elder Lister
As you can see I am not delusional about my choice of president, unlike you who thinks Karua is clean. Thinking that her 'cleanliness' will sanitize her superior Raila.
I know Ruto will enrich himself but he will also build the country. Two of the individuals in the uhuru/raila/karua trifecta nearly sent Kenya over the edge and then presented themselves as the solution to the problem they created and you believed them.
The two most corrupt individuals told you they would stop corruption and you believed it just because Karua was a flower girl on the ticket.
As you can see I am not delusional about my choice of president, unlike you who thinks Karua is clean. .
Could you name the scandals that Karua has been involved in.
Denis Young
Elder Lister
I am not going to go down the Okiya rabbit hole. You ask me to name, you ask me to prove, you ask me to verify, you post a screenshot from a random post 5 years ago. No! If you believe she is scandal free, I am fine with that.
My question to you is simple, do you think Karua (a deputy president) could do anything to curtail corruption in a Raila government without being isolated? What power was she going to use that she didn't activate when they were being financed by diverted funds from the State House?
I suspect you googled but didn't find anything. So the safest escape route was question dodging
Denis Young
Elder Lister
Okay, yes I googled and found nothing. She is scandal free. Now that we have that settled, can you answer my question?
Do you think Karua (a deputy president) could do anything to curtail corruption in a Raila government without being isolated? What power was she going to use that she didn't activate when they were being financed by diverted funds from the State House?
It's good you've answered the question. Former minister of water, a ministry that receives huge budgets for dams, she left without a scandal. Same case with ministry of justice.
Whether she was going to be isolated or not, the fact is that as deputy president she was going to fight against corruption.
Denis Young
Elder Lister
You are not answering the question. How was she going to fight corruption? Was she going to release dossiers? Was she going to be a whistle blower? Was she going to prosecute?
They were going to put policies in place. Like fast tracking corruption cases