More Lube Edishen : Electricity Tarriff

Denis Young said:
You must use well over 100 units a month. I used to get about 64 units, fell to around 52, went back to 62 with the subsidy and now back down to 49 after the removal of the subsidy. I have noticed that the fluctuation is always as a result of energy prices and a strong dollar. That said, if at all we have an increase in tariff prices, something must be done about the taxation regime, VAT and levies. Otherwise punda atakufa.
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We're in bed with IMF. VAT haiwezi guzwa. Infact I predict at some point it will be increased from. 16% to 18%
 
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Okiya said:
We're in bed with IMF. VAT haiwezi guzwa. Infact I predict at some point it will be increased from. 16% to 18%
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What is the rationale behind increasing VAT on electricity before increasing tax on other consumables such as alcohol and cigarettes?
 
Denis Young said:
What is the rationale behind increasing VAT on electricity before increasing tax on other consumables such as alcohol and cigarettes?
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The tax on the two has been declining as antismoking campaigns succeed. Taxable alcohol sales have also been reducing as drinkers go downmarket or resort to kill me quicker makali.
 
Denis Young said:
Are you getting this data from somewhere ama it is anecdotal?
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Just look around you. EABL itself has said more people drinking spirits. When we were growing up most people (over 80 per cent) drank lager with a few taking spirits. Today 60 per cent of people are drinking makali, most of it contraband or counterfeit which is untaxed.

Alcohol consumption by type of beverage in Kenya 2016
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Beer accounted for roughly 40 percent of the alcohol consumption in Kenya as of 2016. The beverage was the most consumed among adults aged 15 years and older, followed by spirits, with a share of 21.4 percent.

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Woman arrested as police impound more than 200 cartons of counterfeit alcohol

Detectives attached to the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) on Monday night arrested a woman who was in possession of more than 200 cartons of counterfeit alcoholic drinks. The suspect
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Mwalimu-G said:
Just look around you. EABL itself has said more people drinking spirits. When we were growing up most people (over 80 per cent) drank lager with a few taking spirits. Today 60 per cent of people are drinking makali, most of it contraband or counterfeit which is untaxed.

Alcohol consumption by type of beverage in Kenya 2016
Published by
Lars Kamer
Lars Kamer



,
Aug 1, 2022
Beer accounted for roughly 40 percent of the alcohol consumption in Kenya as of 2016. The beverage was the most consumed among adults aged 15 years and older, followed by spirits, with a share of 21.4 percent.

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Woman arrested as police impound more than 200 cartons of counterfeit alcohol

Detectives attached to the Directorate of Criminal Investigations (DCI) on Monday night arrested a woman who was in possession of more than 200 cartons of counterfeit alcoholic drinks. The suspect
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This is anecdotal. It doesn't matter if it beer or spirits, there has always been an increment in taxes on alcohol and cigarette products, which has done very little to disrupt consumption. It is always marginal and the only thing that happens is the lower class citizens get pushed to the illicit brews. Here is a graph of consumption from 2010 to 2019.

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Differences have been marginal. No wonder it is always a safe bet to tax these products. Nobody will go on the streets to protest that the price of Guinness or White Cap has gone up.
 
Okiya said:
we cannot continue borrowing money to keep Kenya power afloat.I'm okay with these new proposals.
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And you think Kenya power finances are in shambles because of lack of enough revenue or mismanagement of revenues?
Ruto through that silly boy has increased his stake at kplc...do you know how insider trading works or you want a diagram?
 
Denis Young said:
This is anecdotal. It doesn't matter if it beer or spirits, there has always been an increment in taxes on alcohol and cigarette products, which has done very little to disrupt consumption. It is always marginal and the only thing that happens is the lower class citizens get pushed to the illicit brews. Here is a graph of consumption from 2010 to 2019.

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Differences have been marginal. No wonder it is always a safe bet to tax these products. Nobody will go on the streets to protest that the price of Guinness or White Cap has gone up.
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Why do you have to 'poop' on people's parade....?
Lakini kumbuka data can be used to explain anything depending on whose side one is.
 
Montecarlo said:
And you think Kenya power finances are in shambles because of lack of enough revenue or mismanagement of revenues?
Ruto through that silly boy has increased his stake at kplc...do you know how insider trading works or you want a diagram?
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Okiya said:
You need the diagram more than me. You clearly don't know what insider trading is.
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Let's see who's more knowledgeable.
We may learn a thing or two.
 
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