Laikipia, update

Clemens said:
I am out fellows let me humbly unfollow this discussion, arguing with people comfortably seated in Nairobi with theories is sickening me
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afande you're doing a good job, but everyone wants an end to banditry , if education has failed, why not chop the head? recent reports has some senior cops are the ones supplying bullets, am sure a bigger honcho is the one supplying guns. Why not cut those and supply books, medicine and bibles?
So many areas are marginalized but only that part is a hot spot year in year out.
 
Aviator said:
I really don't know the setting there, but what if they cordon the whole area, say a radius of 20kms and start moving in? Anyone who's not a local anashikwa?
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How do you differentiate between the locals and non locals given that there has been migration into the affected areas since eons ago and the migrants are now local?
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Good points @Aviator and @It's Me Scumbag. Way to go. But then Kenya armed forces have never appreciated the role of intelligence in resolving these issues.
You could never overcome these tensions and aggressions when you are a “foreign force”.

The Al Shabab and other Terrorist Groups have gained a toehold because we do not appreciate or know how to do proper reconnaissance, get more deeply embedded and destroy from within without much fanfare.

There ought to be a long term objective to neutralise, contain and subdue these skirmishes in Laikipia and other trouble spots once and for all by studying and understanding our enemies better.

After all, we are all in agreement that we are dealing with a primitive force and ideology which can only be understood and countered in an anthropological approach.
 
bigDog said:
When PC Chelanga was killed by the so-called bandits in early 90s the government put it's foot down and deployed the military. When Matakoei started upuuzi ya Mt Elgon land injustice, KDF ilimueka six foot under. Do we have any more terrorism in any of those places?

Those Pokot militias should be seen for what they are. They are criminal elements slowly taking a political angle. They are now claiming historical land injustices. Clear political agenda. Using indiscriminate violence against unarmed civilians to achieve a political objective is terrorism.

A credible threat of long and enduring communal pain is needed to erode communal support to this terrorism. It should go along with education and measures to modernize animal husbandry.
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Refer them to what the government did to mungiki. No negotiations, mazishi hapa na pale and no sympathy by the community involved. Results, a terrorist movement done away with.
 
Ole masai said:
Refer them to what the government did to mungiki. No negotiations, mazishi hapa na pale and no sympathy by the community involved. Results, a terrorist movement done away with.
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It's only that the government hasn't let the dogs out on those idiots.
 
Ole masai said:
Refer them to what the government did to mungiki. No negotiations, mazishi hapa na pale and no sympathy by the community involved. Results, a terrorist movement done away with.
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Problem is, the Mungiki victims included their own. That's why there was no sympathy for them. Pokots protect each other. Dawa ya pokots is actually to open up the area they operate in.
 
Budspencer said:
Problem is, the Mungiki victims included their own. That's why there was no sympathy for them. Pokots protect each other. Dawa ya pokots is actually to open up the area they operate in.
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How do you open up an area? You build schools, they don't want to send their children there, They raid, steal and kill progressive neighbours or those who try to integrate with them. Minus politics, the solution to the problem is quite simple and effective as demonstrated elsewhere. Mungiki and the sabaot are good examples.
 
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