Justin Muturi: William Ruto is a very dangerous character.

Ballsy confessions. I predict Ruto's sycophants will claim that Muturi is only revealing this since he's no longer in kafment and you know... that will be true because they won't bother to deny the assertions made, knowing that Kaongo is as corrupt as a person can be.


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mzeiya said:
Ballsy confessions. I predict Ruto's sycophants will claim that Muturi is only revealing this since he's no longer in kafment and you know... that will be true because they won't bother to deny the assertions made, knowing that Kaongo is as corrupt as a person can be.


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When did you realize Kaongo is corrupt? Before you voted for him in 2022 or after?
 
Denis Young said:
When did you realize Kaongo is corrupt? Before you voted for him in 2022 or after?
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For the umpteenth time, I made a wrong judgement call because Rao's side didn't seem to have much to offer, and I have shared here before that the BBI was the deciding factor. I ferked up and I'll always regret that choice. It makes me feel like a fool, and one day I will sit my kids down and tell them never to make such a foolish decision. Happy now that I have repeated myself?

Anyway, unlike you, I don't suffer from Stockholm syndrome.
 
mzeiya said:
For the umpteenth time, I made a wrong judgement call because Rao's side didn't seem to have much to offer, and I have shared here before that the BBI was the deciding factor. I ferked up and I'll always regret that choice. It makes me feel like a fool, and one day I will sit my kids down and tell them never to make such a foolish decision. Happy now that I have repeated myself?

Anyway, unlike you, I don't suffer from Stockholm syndrome.
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What makes you confident that you are not making foolish decisions now? Or will you come to a similar realization post 2027?
 
mzeiya said:
For the umpteenth time, I made a wrong judgement call because Rao's side didn't seem to have much to offer, and I have shared here before that the BBI was the deciding factor. I ferked up and I'll always regret that choice. It makes me feel like a fool, and one day I will sit my kids down and tell them never to make such a foolish decision. Happy now that I have repeated myself?

Anyway, unlike you, I don't suffer from Stockholm syndrome.
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Chief, few things to note:
As I have been saying, the system is designed to allow the worst to succeed. It's all about money + influence. politics is all about framing your own selfish interests to look like they are people's interests. And that's true especially here where there is no identity nor ideology. You need at least 5 billions to mount a successful campaign. Nobody in the whole world can spend that amount so he can get some few millions as ROI.There is nothing like charity. Though Ruto had shown his true colors from long time ago, there is absolutely no evidence that we'd have been better had Rao's side succeeded.

Example,
1. In the Former KRA's Chief Autobiography, he states how Ruto, Uhuru and Rao tried to influence decisions of KRA When they were senior officials in Kibaki's govt. All fought for tax evasion.

2. In 2007, Rao's side campaigned on anti corruption platform and almost succeeded. But according to leaked documents by wikileaks, Rao's campaign was financed heavily by Bro Paul Kamlesh Pattni and Anglo leasing mafia.

So when someone says he'd have fought corruption, take it with a pinch of salt.

3. Even Rao's manifesto all proved he had absolutely no idea where Kenya was and where it was going. Promising free university education and 6k tokens when 70% of revenue goes to debt repayment is just ridiculous.

4. Na ata venye kunaendelea, it's possible Martha would have been shown the door immediately after being sworn in.

So it is important to take politics lightly. Accept that it is unlikely that our fortunes can be changed thru the ballot.
 
Othello said:
Chief, few things to note:
As I have been saying, the system is designed to allow the worst to succeed. It's all about money + influence. politics is all about framing your own selfish interests to look like they are people's interests. And that's true especially here where there is no identity nor ideology. You need at least 5 billions to mount a successful campaign. Nobody in the whole world can spend that amount so he can get some few millions as ROI.There is nothing like charity. Though Ruto had shown his true colors from long time ago, there is absolutely no evidence that we'd have been better had Rao's side succeeded.

Example,
1. In the Former KRA's Chief Autobiography, he states how Ruto, Uhuru and Rao tried to influence decisions of KRA When they were senior officials in Kibaki's govt. All fought for tax evasion.

2. In 2007, Rao's side campaigned on anti corruption platform and almost succeeded. But according to leaked documents by wikileaks, Rao's campaign was financed heavily by Bro Paul Kamlesh Pattni and Anglo leasing mafia.

So when someone says he'd have fought corruption, take it with a pinch of salt.

3. Even Rao's manifesto all proved he had absolutely no idea where Kenya was and where it was going. Promising free university education and 6k tokens when 70% of revenue goes to debt repayment is just ridiculous.

4. Na ata venye kunaendelea, it's possible Martha would have been shown the door immediately after being sworn in.

So it is important to take politics lightly. Accept that it is unlikely that our fortunes can be changed thru the ballot.
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Very sobering thoughts. Thank you for sharing.
 
Young_Turk said:
Honestly, we had slim pickings, between a pathological sociopathic liar murder vs a known blood-based occultist.
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Welcome to the Kenyan political reality. In every election it is always about the lesser evil. Raila was telling us he will give us 6k and that he will get more resources by stopping corruption and people actually believed that nonsense.

On the other hand, the KK manifesto was more realistic and you can see they are implementing it, including the recent securitization of road pending bills. That is why I voted Ruto.

You will have a similar decision in 2027. I am watching Maraga doing campaigns, making grandiose speeches about integrity in air conditioned hotels as if that is where the votes are. Omtatah is waiting for permission to declare his intentions.

This is probably the first election where there is no clear second horse. If they don't come together it will be a cake walk for Ruto.
 
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