#Justice for Komothai Guards

[Aviator]

yes it's not acceptable, but that does not justify cornering one and cloberring him. We have laws for security guards, like i said the police know something we don't, what if they queried the girls and they said they only screamed and the guards showed up and did the rest?

See MasterJi's reply above. I think it answers many questions.

 

[Doc oga]

What else would they be going to do? Its common sense.

Hakuna sex ya kubahatisha, they must have been invited.

 

[wrongturn]

That's what they do but there are normally no hundreds of hysterical girls screaming in semidarkness. I find people here failing to take cognizance of the suddenness of the first scream and the reaction. How long, for example, did the guards take to get from their post to the scene?

But mwalimu I think the police are holding those guards responsible for something we don't know yet, the girls might have raised alarm but guards as adults reacted excessively. let's wait for them to be arraigned in court and all facts will be laid bare. If the girls did it, it will also be known.

 

[Notapeoplesguy]

You realize you are talking of young hormone fuelled youngins who have no benefit of experience, rational thought and or hindsight to who street cred is everything.

Jungle law has taken over this country peoole even here reasoning like bonobos. The only real crime the teenagers commited

You are also overlooking the part where the "girls raised alarm, cornered the boy and beat him to pulp". It probably isn't the guards who delivered the fatal blow.

And again, try sneaking into a barracks with 1000 armed trained soldiers (not 500 innocent unarmed girls) and see what the soldiers on guard duty will do to your sorry self. And we are talking of soldiers perfectly capable of defending themselves. And soldiers whom you aren't likely to overpower and abuse sexually.

Let us ask ourselves a few questions.
1) Was the intrusion to be perceived as a real threat to the lives of the girls? Yes
2) Are the guards under obligation to protect the lives of these girls? Yes
3) Did the guards have any motive for killing an innocent boy? No
4) Did the guards have a way of knowing if this boy is a school boy out for a quickie or a gang member of a raping gang? No
5) Do the guards have capacity to control 500 emotional girls out to kill their potential rapist? No

What is worrying is the incompetence of the guards at the boys' school. How did they get out unnoticed?
But what is even more worrying is the boys' lack of strategy. How do you expect to go to a girl's dormitory at 4am and be unnoticed? Isn't that the time the girls wake up to shower?

Soo many assumptions and imagination you lack critical thinking and seem to be a very emotional person. The facts of the matter is boys sneaked into a girls school and were discovered by the guards where one was caught after failing to escape the guards. The guards partnering with staff lynched the teenage boy. This was not self defence as the victim did not pose any threat to the guards. This is what transpired,all this other stuff you're writing is as a result of your unctrolled imaginations,emotions and lack of rational thinking.

 

[Mwalimu-G]

But mwalimu I think the police are holding those guards responsible for something

I think they held the guards to cool temperatures (and there's something called failing to prevent a felony). Going forward I do not expect ODPP to sustain murder charges. But I guess we shall have to wait and see.

 

[The.Black.Templar]

One thing is for sure, the boys knew the layout of the school, it was probably not the first time sneaking in....anyway hapa ni Kenya and its a complicated case

 

[Aviator]

Jungle law has taken over this country peoole even here reasoning like bonobos. The only real crime the teenagers commited

Soo many assumptions and imagination you lack critical thinking and seem to be a very emotional person. The facts of the matter is boys sneaked into a girls school and were discovered by the guards where one was caught after failing to escape the guards. The guards partnering with staff lynched the teenage boy. This was not self defence as the victim did not pose any threat to the guards. This is what transpired,all this other stuff you're writing is as a result of your unctrolled imaginations,emotions and lack of rational thinking.

So critical thinking non-bonobo, tell us which guard delivered the fatal blow. What we know so far is that the boy was cornered by the girls. Everything else we are thinking based on what we know about similar mob incidents and sneaky boys going to a girls' dorm.

 

[Aviator]

But mwalimu I think the police are holding those guards responsible for something we don't know yet, the girls might have raised alarm but guards as adults reacted excessively. let's wait for them to be arraigned in court and all facts will be laid bare. If the girls did it, it will also be known.

Police in Kenya are lazy and will pick the simplest route. They should also be holding the 5 potential rapists on the loose.

 

[Burner]

You are also overlooking the part where the "girls raised alarm, cornered the boy and beat him to pulp". It probably isn't the guards who delivered the fatal blow.

And again, try sneaking into a barracks with 1000 armed trained soldiers (not 500 innocent unarmed girls) and see what the soldiers on guard duty will do to your sorry self. And we are talking of soldiers perfectly capable of defending themselves. And soldiers whom you aren't likely to overpower and abuse sexually.

Let us ask ourselves a few questions.
1) Was the intrusion to be perceived as a real threat to the lives of the girls? Yes
2) Are the guards under obligation to protect the lives of these girls? Yes
3) Did the guards have any motive for killing an innocent boy? No
4) Did the guards have a way of knowing if this boy is a school boy out for a quickie or a gang member of a raping gang? No
5) Do the guards have capacity to control 500 emotional girls out to kill their potential rapist? No

What is worrying is the incompetence of the guards at the boys' school. How did they get out unnoticed?
But what is even more worrying is the boys' lack of strategy. How do you expect to go to a girl's dormitory at 4am and be unnoticed? Isn't that the time the girls wake up to shower?

While so some of these questions are pertinent to the overall picture of security, they do not serve any purpose in regards to the discussion im having with you as to how far the guards and staffers went in their actions.
It doesnt matter if it was the girls or a single guard that raised the alarm. And it doesnt matter if it wasnt a guard who didnt land the killing blow. The fact that there were staffer and guards involved in that beatdown means both are complicit in the killing.

As to whether the guards cant have known whether it was 1 boy or 500 may very well be true. But when more than presumably 2 people have caught 1 of the offending party, what is the better choice considering your lack of information:

1. Gang up in a group and lynch the intruder, or;
2. Spread out your resources to make sure the girls are safe and stop any other intruders?

Perhaps there's a third alternative that doesnt occur to me. And if those are the only two, why lynch? Its not self defense.

Was the trespass perceived as threat? Yes. But at what point when the boy is being beaten by X number of people is he still being a threat?

The adults in the mob are most culpable in the killing. Their actions dictated how it went down.

 

[JazzMan]

Umbwa hii nyamaza. I can't fathom how normal is it that mtoto ametumwa shule akasome lakini yeye anatembea usiku akitafuta kutombana like a stray dog.

Nenda kalambe rasa ya mashoga wenzako usiniletee ujinga. Kama watoto wenu wamekuwa castrated na hawa feminists hiyo ni shida yenu. Usiniletee. Fisi msenge.

Unaongea upuzi ni kama ni mara ya kwanza wanaume kutoroka shule usiku na kurudi asubuhi. Na ndio ujue vile wewe ni mjinga, hujiulizi ni kwa nini visanga kama hizi za vijana kutoroka shule hushinda zimefanyika

 

[Magreb]

While so some of these questions are pertinent to the overall picture of security, they do not serve any purpose in regards to the discussion im having with you as to how far the guards and staffers went in their actions.
It doesnt matter if it was the girls or a single guard that raised the alarm. And it doesnt matter if it wasnt a guard who didnt land the killing blow. The fact that there were staffer and guards involved in that beatdown means both are complicit in the killing.

As to whether the guards cant have known whether it was 1 boy or 500 may very well be true. But when more than presumably 2 people have caught 1 of the offending party, what is the better choice considering your lack of information:

1. Gang up in a group and lynch the intruder, or;
2. Spread out your resources to make sure the girls are safe and stop any other intruders?

Perhaps there's a third alternative that doesnt occur to me. And if those are the only two, why lynch? Its not self defense.

Was the trespass perceived as threat? Yes. But at what point when the boy is being beaten by X number of people is he still being a threat?

The adults in the mob are most culpable in the killing. Their actions dictated how it went down.

Well spoken but one thing is for sure; that boy will not be raiding any school and it will be a long day in hell before any amorous boy thinks of raiding a school.

 

[Magreb]

Nenda kalambe rasa ya mashoga wenzako usiniletee ujinga. Kama watoto wenu wamekuwa castrated na hawa feminists hiyo ni shida yenu. Usiniletee. Fisi msenge.

Unaongea upuzi ni kama ni mara ya kwanza wanaume kutoroka shule usiku na kurudi asubuhi. Na ndio ujue vile wewe ni mjinga, hujiulizi ni kwa nini visanga kama hizi za vijana kutoroka shule hushinda zimefanyika

I long stated that boarding schools are unnatural. That said, Darwin still has to do his thing by cleaning up the human race of stupidity. Hata wewe naona ukikufa hivi karibuni kwa ujinga.

 

[Aviator]

While so some of these questions are pertinent to the overall picture of security, they do not serve any purpose in regards to the discussion im having with you as to how far the guards and staffers went in their actions.
It doesnt matter if it was the girls or a single guard that raised the alarm. And it doesnt matter if it wasnt a guard who didnt land the killing blow. The fact that there were staffer and guards involved in that beatdown means both are complicit in the killing.

As to whether the guards cant have known whether it was 1 boy or 500 may very well be true. But when more than presumably 2 people have caught 1 of the offending party, what is the better choice considering your lack of information:

1. Gang up in a group and lynch the intruder, or;
2. Spread out your resources to make sure the girls are safe and stop any other intruders?

Perhaps there's a third alternative that doesnt occur to me. And if those are the only two, why lynch? Its not self defense.

Was the trespass perceived as threat? Yes. But at what point when the boy is being beaten by X number of people is he still being a threat?

The adults in the mob are most culpable in the killing. Their actions dictated how it went down.

Well put.
The adults may have been complicit. But that doesn't mean they murdered. Such a charge can not be sustained. I guess the police know that (and probably share the same school of thought with me), so they throw a charge that will definitely be thrown out and the guards go back to their work.
And no sane boy will try that shit again as long as those three guards are on duty. Not this generation.

 

[JazzMan]

I long stated that boarding schools are unnatural. That said, Darwin still has to do his thing by cleaning up the human race of stupidity. Hata wewe naona ukikufa hivi karibuni kwa ujinga.

Ni hii ujinga ulitoa kwa mamako ndio umeona uje uanikie watu kwa internet? Ukisikia nimekuudhi, finya block na uendelee na maisha yako duni, sio kuja kutapika ujinga hapa ndio ujisikie uko na kitu ya maana inaendelea kwa maisha yako. Matako ya fisi. Katombwe na huko

 

[Magreb]

Ni hii ujinga ulitoa kwa mamako ndio umeona uje uanikie watu kwa internet? Ukisikia nimekuudhi, finya block na uendelee na maisha yako duni, sio kuja kutapika ujinga hapa ndio ujisikie uko na kitu ya maana inaendelea kwa maisha yako. Matako ya fisi. Katombwe na huko

Interesting that a comment on an anonymous forum piques you that much. Siwezi kukublock juu sina umama kama wewe labda wewe uniblock ghaseer hii. Na tukikutana in real life sii utajinyonga.

 

[The.Black.Templar]

Interesting that a comment on an anonymous forum piques you that much. Siwezi kukublock juu sina umama kama wewe labda wewe uniblock ghaseer hii. Na tukikutana in real life sii utajinyonga.

si ni wewe umeanza matusi mdau

 

[Magreb]

si ni wewe umeanza matusi mdau

Wewe na comprehension ni mafuta na maji.

 

[JazzMan]

si ni wewe umeanza matusi mdau

Wachana na hiyo nongwe.

 

[Magreb]

Kalambe ikus ya mamako, hakuna mtu alikuambia ukuje na matusi. Kama imekuuma finya ignore na ukapige punyeto kwa nyumba ya mamako vile umezoea. You're too insignificant for me to pay attention to in real life. Wewe ningeua na hakuna mahali familia yako ingenipeleka

Breath in and breath out. You take klist too seriously. Lakini bado wewe ni ndogo sana.

 

[JazzMan]

Breath in and breath out. You take klist too seriously. Lakini bado wewe ni ndogo sana.

Ndio ujue vile you don't have a life, unakuja kutusi watu kwa internet ndio ujisikie umefanya kitu ya maana. Inaonekana juices za mathako ulilamba ziko na halucinogenic effect ndio zikakushow uje unitusi.