Israel v Hamas

nakujua said:
People have always displaced others when it comes to settlements, even homo sapiens might have displaced neanderthals, we could even say watu watoke Nairobi since it was forcible settled.
For the middle east wacha wapigane whoever is weaker ama whoever gives up first akuwe assimilated ama displaced and life goes on, no certain people have ownership to land, its always the current stronger ones who get to keep it for as long as they maintain their strength.
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That is one of the most ignorant post I've had the displeasure of reading, you do understand how colonization worked right?
 
Denis Young said:
You mean terrorists experiencing terrorism and feeling aggrieved...shocker. There are no good people here between israel and the Hamas. The lines have since been obscured. Who shot the first bullet, who threw the first granade. Nobody knows anymore.
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This is a war that has been fought for more than 2 millenniums. The Romans, Crusaders( Re-invented Romans), Vs Ayubid Dynasties of Syria and at the present I wouldn't be surprised Italy has a hand on it. Kuna kitu sisi watu wa rangi nyeusi hatujui kuhusu the Holy Land.
 
mzeiya said:
Mimi ni Mkristo lakini ile resettlement Palestinians wamefanyiwa kwao ni noma.
But the issue is deeply historic and so complicated that no means of finding peace will ever settle the dispute.
Hapa ni kungoja the Battle of Armageddon aisee
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funny thing watu huko Israel that si wakristo, they practice Judaism. Wakristo like you to them are tourists who provide tourism revenue
 
Berlin said:
That is one of the most ignorant post I've had the displeasure of reading, you do understand how colonization worked right?
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Whats ignorant in stating that its the strong who get to keep or determine land ownership, even your title is guaranteed by a strong entity that is the government, if isis got their way with the caliphate which included kenya your land title validity would rest with the new force, thats how the world works, thats how it has always worked.

During colonization the strong force (colonial powers) came and determined land ownership, prior to colonization its the stronger tribes who migrated into the present day Kenya who determined the land ownership, and the skirmishes between tribes determined who got a bigger share of land depending on how aggressive or stronger they were, after independence its the stronger people (those in government) who took over from the colonialist who determined land ownership.

Emotions are a part of humanity, that warm fuzzy feeling, that disgust, that 'wioshe' feeling, and its ok to pity the palestinians, or the mau mau, or the dorobo, or the native americans, or the aborigines, or the celtics, or whatever people you can think of who were displaced. That does not change how the systems function and the benefits gained from the same, which you might even be enjoying.
 
Denis Young said:
You mean terrorists experiencing terrorism and feeling aggrieved...shocker. There are no good people here between israel and the Hamas. The lines have since been obscured. Who shot the first bullet, who threw the first granade. Nobody knows anymore.
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You and I were not there when it started
We don't know where it's coming from or where it's heading to....
Why don't we bury down apartheid, bury down discrimination......
Lucky Dube
 
nakujua said:
Whats ignorant in stating that its the strong who get to keep or determine land ownership, even your title is guaranteed by a strong entity that is the government, if isis got their way with the caliphate which included kenya your land title validity would rest with the new force, thats how the world works, thats how it has always worked.

During colonization the strong force (colonial powers) came and determined land ownership, prior to colonization its the stronger tribes who migrated into the present day Kenya who determined the land ownership, and the skirmishes between tribes determined who got a bigger share of land depending on how aggressive or stronger they were, after independence its the stronger people (those in government) who took over from the colonialist who determined land ownership.

Emotions are a part of humanity, that warm fuzzy feeling, that disgust, that 'wioshe' feeling, and its ok to pity the palestinians, or the mau mau, or the dorobo, or the native americans, or the aborigines, or the celtics, or whatever people you can think of who were displaced. That does not change how the systems function and the benefits gained from the same, which you might even be enjoying.
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Alas
 
nakujua said:
Whats ignorant in stating that its the strong who get to keep or determine land ownership, even your title is guaranteed by a strong entity that is the government, if isis got their way with the caliphate which included kenya your land title validity would rest with the new force, thats how the world works, thats how it has always worked.

During colonization the strong force (colonial powers) came and determined land ownership, prior to colonization its the stronger tribes who migrated into the present day Kenya who determined the land ownership, and the skirmishes between tribes determined who got a bigger share of land depending on how aggressive or stronger they were, after independence its the stronger people (those in government) who took over from the colonialist who determined land ownership.

Emotions are a part of humanity, that warm fuzzy feeling, that disgust, that 'wioshe' feeling, and its ok to pity the palestinians, or the mau mau, or the dorobo, or the native americans, or the aborigines, or the celtics, or whatever people you can think of who were displaced. That does not change how the systems function and the benefits gained from the same, which you might even be enjoying.
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Logic is bereft of moral inclinations.
 
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