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Totally callous! People who don't care about human life.

They have already bought their ICU beds and hired top clinicians to be at their disposal at home
 
@bigDog since you are on the Frontline calling for a lockdown yet in another post you have admitted you are on a payroll somewhere, those who don't have a mhindi to pay them something at the end of the month, where do you want them to, source for a living from. When someone dies the next thing that happens is that you are buried and life goes on. It's unfortunate but it's the truth. Better learn to stay with the truth because you are reasoning like the scientists who want us to stsy at home forgetting that there's nothing there but staring at our kids and fat wives
 
bigDog said:
This government made a mistake in opening up prematurely. No preps were made on testing. Our public health workers don't have PPEs. Ukienda ICUs zimejaa.

Kifo cha wengi harusi. But those who will survive this pandemic must understand the criminality involved in our governments. Totally callous! People who don't care about human life.
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Unatetea GOK sana. They got it wrong from the start. Remember when we were testing 50 per day? When other countries like Rwanda and Uganda were testing more than us? Then there was a young man who developed testing solutions early on but got frustrated by GOK and moved to Rwanda where he was welcomed with open hands.
 
Wegrow said:
@bigDog since you are on the Frontline calling for a lockdown yet in another post you have admitted you are on a payroll somewhere, those who don't have a mhindi to pay them something at the end of the month, where do you want them to, source for a living from. When someone dies the next thing that happens is that you are buried and life goes on. It's unfortunate but it's the truth. Better learn to stay with the truth because you are reasoning like the scientists who want us to stsy at home forgetting that there's nothing there but staring at our kids and fat wives
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The scientist does not call for you to stay home because he is getting a paycheck from a "mhindi". He is telling you to stay home because being out there you are more likely to bring the disease home to that same wife and kids.
Its sucks but the only way to get this shit under control is to minimize movement and interactions as much as possible. That is the only way every country that is doing low infection rates and deaths has achieved it.
 
Burner said:
The scientist does not call for you to stay home because he is getting a paycheck from a "mhindi". He is telling you to stay home because being out there you are more likely to bring the disease home to that same wife and kids.
Its sucks but the only way to get this shit under control is to minimize movement and interactions as much as possible. That is the only way every country that is doing low infection rates and deaths has achieved it.
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Sit home yet die of hunger
 
Wegrow said:
@bigDog since you are on the Frontline calling for a lockdown yet in another post you have admitted you are on a payroll somewhere, those who don't have a mhindi to pay them something at the end of the month, where do you want them to, source for a living from. When someone dies the next thing that happens is that you are buried and life goes on. It's unfortunate but it's the truth. Better learn to stay with the truth because you are reasoning like the scientists who want us to stsy at home forgetting that there's nothing there but staring at our kids and fat wives
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Facts don't care. Let's brace ourselves for a peak in infections and deaths.
 
Stay at home die of hunger, have you organized for starving families to get food in your neighborhood or it's not part of your social responsibility
 
Wegrow said:
Stay at home die of hunger, have you organized for starving families to get food in your neighborhood or it's not part of your social responsibility
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@bigDog doesnt care, he is on a payroll and not part of the >300k kenyans who are out of a job. Most salaried people can afford to argue to stay at home because covid has not affected them in anyway apart from a few minor inconviniences of not going for that vacation in Dubai.

Kenyans are smart and responsible people, ata ukienda kwa market, they have invested in a water tank, soap and clean water, but if you are going to loose your livelyhood, then what is the point?
 
bigDog said:
You were the one telling us. Endelea. Which magical treatment are they using?

But I would have started with having a lower number of covid-19 positive papatients.That wins the lottery any time.
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Not big on comprehension are ya? I said we need to learn what they are doing to have high recovery rates not that I know what they are doing. Yes their Reported positive numbers are Low. Whether those are real or due to low testing or censorship is not the issue am raising.

The issue is that recoveries among their identified positives are very high -over 5 times higher-compared to recoveries among Kenya’s identified positives. Infact Kenya death rate is among the highest if not the highest in ss Africa. That either means we are doing something wrong in our case handling or our population is unhealthy compared to others.

over 4 months since the apparent first case was identified, these are the kind of basic analysis our scientists should be undertaking since they are too ......to give us even fundamentals like test kits leave alone vaccine and medicine .
even after all the billions poured on research institutes like kemri, we still rely on import for basically all medical inputs due to such over reliance and corruption ofcourse
 
The.Black.Templar said:
@bigDog doesnt care, he is on a payroll and not part of the >300k kenyans who are out of a job. Most salaried people can afford to argue to stay at home because covid has not affected them in anyway apart from a few minor inconviniences of not going for that vacation in Dubai.

Kenyans are smart and responsible people, ata ukienda kwa market, they have invested in a water tank, soap and clean water, but if you are going to loose your livelyhood, then what is the point?
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My situation in life is immaterial in this argument. I'm just stating dry facts. Open up and your are going to hav
ranny wa klist said:
Not big on comprehension are ya? I said we need to learn what they are doing to have high recovery rates not that I know what they are doing. Yes their Reported positive numbers are Low. Whether those are real or due to low testing or censorship is not the issue am raising.

The issue is that recoveries among their identified positives are very high -over 5 times higher-compared to recoveries among Kenya’s identified positives. Infact Kenya death rate is among the highest if not the highest in ss Africa. That either means we are doing something wrong in our case handling or our population is unhealthy compared to others.

over 4 months since the apparent first case was identified, these are the kind of basic analysis our scientists should be undertaking since they are too ......to give us even fundamentals like test kits leave alone vaccine and medicine .
even after all the billions poured on research institutes like kemri, we still rely on import for basically all medical inputs due to such over reliance and corruption ofcourse
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Thanks for clarifying, I misunderstood your statement. I don't think they are using any newer drug or protocol that is has not been widely used across the globe. When you have low infection rate, the disease has not spread evenly in the community and reached the most vulnerable population. I'm speculating and would really to see a published paper on the experiences in UG and RW.

Vaccine development is a very expensive undertaking. Just have a look at the stuff being done at Kilifi by Kemri-Wellcome trust, how many vaccines have they developed? Thousands of scientists are working on a vaccine and other interventions across the globe as we speak. We only have a handful of researchers and very limited funding. Think of our poor University lecturers who should be leading researchers. How much money do we allocate them for research?
 
bigDog said:
My situation in life is immaterial in this argument. I'm just stating dry facts. Open up and your are going to hav


Thanks for clarifying, I misunderstood your statement. I don't think they are using any newer drug or protocol that is has not been widely used across the globe. When you have low infection rate, the disease has not spread evenly in the community and reached the most vulnerable population. I'm speculating and would really to see a published paper on the experiences in UG and RW.

Vaccine development is a very expensive undertaking. Just have a look at the stuff being done at Kilifi by Kemri-Wellcome trust, how many vaccines have they developed? Thousands of scientists are working on a vaccine and other interventions across the globe as we speak. We only have a handful of researchers and very limited funding. Think of our poor University lecturers who should be leading researchers. How much money do we allocate them for research?
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KEMRI is one of the most Overfunded institutions I know both by government and especially by donors. But their greatest product has been the biggest corruption scandals ever with most money being eaten by its management thus denying research adequate funding.
 
ranny wa klist said:
KEMRI is one of the most Overfunded institutions I know both by government and especially by donors. But their greatest product has been the biggest corruption scandals ever with most money being eaten by its management thus denying research adequate funding.
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No suprises there. We are a corrupt nation.
 
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