Did America destroy its economy because of Doomsday models?

A hospital saying that it will put cancer treatments on hold in favour of prepping for corona virus are based on those models, which are then being adopted by other countries. We must interrogate the logic and effect of those decisions.
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Specifically on this case, the issue is to contain unwarranted exposure of patients on cancer treatment to COVID19. I'm sure you're well aware of what anticancer medication does to a patient's immune system, and the effects of COVID19 on those with pre-existing medical conditions.
 
Of course the situation is bad. Corona virus is a new thing everywhere. But the situation in America is not really bad for them to commit national economic suicide.
I had asked this on another thread and i didnt get a reply, so i will ask again now.
What are these steps from, an economics perspective, that the US don't need to take in regard to the pandemic to avoid this suicide?
 
I see you are eager to trash the projections but do you factor in the interventions such as have come from knowledge gained and shared. How has reduced movement (from increased mass awareness) and better hygiene for example affected the outcomes so far?

Read my first post. The first sentence I indicated the model is post lockdown. Lockdown is an intervention.
 
I hear what you're saying. The situation is dire.

Allow me to reiterate that the effect of using overblown projection models to create policy and make certain sweeping decisions is the problem here.



A hospital saying that it will put cancer treatments on hold in favour of prepping for corona virus are based on those models, which are then being adopted by other countries. We must interrogate the logic and effect of those decisions.
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It's unfortunate but necessary. You travel to Nairobi for treatment, get exposed and travel back to Maseno.
The failure here is not in closing down the treatment, but the fact that he has to travel all the way to Nairobi for treatment.
You have to learn lessons from places where the infection has spread like wildfire, and we all know what our health infrastructure is like in this country. The moment that thing was here, we had to start taking the rougher road to curb this it and it involves things like this as bad as they are.
 
Specifically on this case, the issue is to contain unwarranted exposure of patients on cancer treatment to COVID19. I'm sure you're well aware of what anticancer medication does to a patient's immune system, and the effects of COVID19 on those with pre-existing medical conditions.
I understand now. Wako exposed vibaya.
 
Of course the situation is bad. Corona virus is a new thing everywhere. But the situation in America is not really bad for them to commit national economic suicide.

What should they do instead? What are these measures that can both slow down infections while allowing people to go to work?
 
Avoid shutdown but learn from Taiwan.
Here is an article I have found on what Taiwan and Singapore did to cap their numbers and not go into shutdown.
Kwong does see possible barriers to Canada adopting a similar approach, like chronic under-funding of public health here and a populace less at ease with government control than some east-Asian societies.

“ITaiwan and Singapore have unitary governments that manage health care for everyone. Canada, with its federal system, essentially has 13 separate health jurisdictions, each delivering slightly different responses to the pandemic.

But Dr. Jason Wang, a Stanford University professor who published a recent paper on Taiwan’s COVID-19 successes, believes there is no real reason Western nations can’t take similar action.

Taiwan’s response in a sense began shortly after SARS, when it set up a national health command centre, which includes a central epidemic command centre.

As news of the new coronavirus emerged from Wuhan, it took extensive measures to identify cases imported into the country. Officials actually boarded planes from the Chinese city to assess passengers, ordering those with fever into isolation.

It merged health and travel databases — a seemingly complex task achieved within a day — then made that information widely available to help identify cases.

The government moved quickly to stockpile supplies, recruiting hundreds of reserve soldiers to work on production lines for surgical and N95 masks, so by late January there were 44 million and two million of each, respectively. Meanwhile, it restricted the retail price of masks to avoid profiteering, and eventually implemented a rationing system that allocated citizens two masks a week.

It also aggressively pursued quarantine violators, tracking down three Hong Kong visitors who had disappeared for a week when they should have been in isolation, fining them $3,000 each. And it published the names of three others who had not gone into quarantine as instructed.

A notice sent by text to Singapore residents details fines for violating at-home quarantines and how authorities will check up on those in quarantine. Supplied
Authorities also took a tough stance on misinformation, threatening $130,000 fines for spreading fake news, and interrogating suspects who allegedly started a rumour that increased mask production was creating a toilet-paper shortage."


You can tell me if this is in line with what you know, but more importantly, whether the same would work based on the size, culture, and government structure of the US. And keep in mind Trump fired pandemic response teams and took time before action was taken.
 
See what Seut Efrikens are doing and accomplishing:


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Here is an article I have found on what Taiwan and Singapore did to cap their numbers and not go into shutdown.
Kwong does see possible barriers to Canada adopting a similar approach, like chronic under-funding of public health here and a populace less at ease with government control than some east-Asian societies.

“ITaiwan and Singapore have unitary governments that manage health care for everyone. Canada, with its federal system, essentially has 13 separate health jurisdictions, each delivering slightly different responses to the pandemic.

But Dr. Jason Wang, a Stanford University professor who published a recent paper on Taiwan’s COVID-19 successes, believes there is no real reason Western nations can’t take similar action.

Taiwan’s response in a sense began shortly after SARS, when it set up a national health command centre, which includes a central epidemic command centre.

As news of the new coronavirus emerged from Wuhan, it took extensive measures to identify cases imported into the country. Officials actually boarded planes from the Chinese city to assess passengers, ordering those with fever into isolation.

It merged health and travel databases — a seemingly complex task achieved within a day — then made that information widely available to help identify cases.

The government moved quickly to stockpile supplies, recruiting hundreds of reserve soldiers to work on production lines for surgical and N95 masks, so by late January there were 44 million and two million of each, respectively. Meanwhile, it restricted the retail price of masks to avoid profiteering, and eventually implemented a rationing system that allocated citizens two masks a week.

It also aggressively pursued quarantine violators, tracking down three Hong Kong visitors who had disappeared for a week when they should have been in isolation, fining them $3,000 each. And it published the names of three others who had not gone into quarantine as instructed.

A notice sent by text to Singapore residents details fines for violating at-home quarantines and how authorities will check up on those in quarantine. Supplied
Authorities also took a tough stance on misinformation, threatening $130,000 fines for spreading fake news, and interrogating suspects who allegedly started a rumour that increased mask production was creating a toilet-paper shortage."


You can tell me if this is in line with what you know, but more importantly, whether the same would work based on the size, culture, and government structure of the US. And keep in mind Trump fired pandemic response teams and took time before action was taken.



Singapore to Close Schools, Most Workplaces With Rising Virus Cases

 
Avoid shutdown but learn from Taiwan.

Boss, Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea and even China were directly affected by SARS and still hadinfrastructure in place to deal with new outbreaks when covid19 struck, preparedness and swift action slowed down the infection rates and freed up resources for serious cases to be given close attention keeping their death rates low.

The Germans werent exactly prepared like the Asian nations but they sprung into action swiftly which the Americans failed to do, they are now talking about increasing testing to a million tests a week the goal being to detect tbose infected, isolate them, get them treated before they infect others.

With more than a quarter of a million confirmed cases the US needs to almost guarantee new infections do not happen, masks are good but would it be practical to expect hundreds of millions would have the discipline to have their masks on everytime they are in public spaces? How effective would disinfection be in cities with tens of millions on the move? How about social distance requirements, how do you enforce them in such large, vibrant cities?
 
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