Where did we go wrong as Kenyan musicians?

Kasaman

Elder Lister
Aping other people is our weakness, I listen to traditional poetry from the giriama, pokomo, kamba, miiru, Gikuyu, Embu, kalenjins, and Luo, accompanied with a stringed instrument nyatiti or wandindi in some cases, our people had original prowess, which if we adopted to modern music, it would be unique.
He died last week,at his home mucatha. How many Kenyan know him !
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JazzMan

Elder Lister
Tembea Nairobi na Kenya mitaani, in and out of live venues. In fact, there is no other time in our history where access to musical instruments, sound reinforcement, schools, studios and distribution was so easy.


Yes, at the moment, getting an instrument is very easy, but that is just the beginning of tje journey. The next is finding the correct material to practice and play.

I've had the privilege of travelling to a few towns across the country, as well as work with some of these musicians who work in Nairobi clubs and events. There is a serious gulf, not just in education, but exposure.

Music education is expensive and most Kenyans don't even take it as something worth investing in, so most of what these schools teach is quite shallow when it comes to theory. They focus mostly on practical skills. The school that offers all round education is the Conservatoire of Music at KNT, but they mostly stick to british ABRSM education while neglecting African music (I was there). Same for KU.

As a result, many musicians are self taught, especially those playing local genres. What they learn will be a product of their environment. One place I went to is Nunguni in Makueni and those guys could twanga that Kamba music effortless, but when it came time to sound more western, they failed. I can't fault them. I'd rather have it that way.

On the other hand here in Nairobi, a musician would play and sing Kenny Rodger's repertoire inside and out but ask them to play something by Mzee Ngala, they simply don't know the songs.

I wouldn't expect a rock musician to play jazz and vice versa, but at least they acknowledge those genres exist. Here in Kenya, especially with gigging musicians in Nairobi, most practice and play western music, yet they are the ones with the most access to resources in comparison to someone from Mundika in Busia.

There is no effort to record, transcribe and teach the myriad of music styles such as Benga or Mugithi to the newer generations, especially those far removed from the centres of popularity. This is how a lot of music by the likes of akina Dola Kabari has disappeared from the nation.
 

Liberty

Elder Lister
Yesterday 11:00 pm after watching a movie some music (hizi za kisasa) was played in a TV show, I told nun this is trash and I went to bed, couldn't listen anymore. siku hizi ni makelele nasikia
 

JazzMan

Elder Lister
My experience is that our atists have also embraced theory, composition, performing and management seriously.


On the performance and management part, people are making investments in millions. The theory and composition part is where we are still lagging. Trying to communicate ideas, especially between people with different musical backgrounds is where the problem still is.
 

Liberty

Elder Lister
Let's be honest, that type of music went with the times. You are not the target clientele of the modern, make-a-quick-buck music that is quickly forgotten by the years end.

However, there is a time, place and occasion for it. Give me a nice blunt, some guiness or rum and the sound of my girlfriend lecturing me on how I don't give a shit about her would sound just as relaxing.
You are young
 

It's Me Scumbag

Elder Lister
Let's be honest, that type of music went with the times. You are not the target clientele of the modern, make-a-quick-buck music that is quickly forgotten by the years end.

However, there is a time, place and occasion for it. Give me a nice blunt, some guiness or rum and the sound of my girlfriend lecturing me on how I don't give a shit about her would sound just as relaxing.
The folly of youth! Youth is fleeting my friend. Tomorrow you will be the ones wishing for music of your youth. And you know what,another young in will tell to STFU...Coz you ain't the target audience!
Take that to @uwesmake He will happily give you a top up loan!
 

Denis Young

Elder Lister
The folly of youth! Youth is fleeting my friend. Tomorrow you will be the ones wishing for music of your youth. And you know what,another young in will tell to STFU...Coz you ain't the target audience!
Take that to @uwesmake He will happily give you a top up loan!
The moment you come to terms with this same statement the better it will be for you. If we had it your way we would be playing 'Utawezana' on a gramophone.
It is fine to be nostalgic once in a while but reveling in it is a disease. Move on chief.
 

MkukiMoto

Elder Lister
The moment you come to terms with this same statement the better it will be for you. If we had it your way we would be playing 'Utawezana' on a gramophone.
It is fine to be nostalgic once in a while but reveling in it is a disease. Move on chief.
@Denis Young, who do you think most of the +3000 calls & text msgs are from ? Those who have been hunting yule kashana Aziza of TikTok Challenge Utawezana ? Ni Wazee na senators looking to be maSponsors ! Na sio mambo ya gramophone era !
 
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Denis Young

Elder Lister
@Denis Young, who do you think most of the +3000 calls & text msgs are from ? Those who have been hunting yule kashana Aziza of TikTok Challenge Utawezana ? Ni Wazee na senators looking to be maSponsors ! Na sio mambo ya gramophone era !
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Walikuwa wanataka kumpeleka those dimly lit clubs with oversize waitresses and wearing crow nests on their heads so they can sing and sway to mugithi...we know them.
 

Duke of Busia

Elder Lister
Guys I've always had this lingering thought in my head to start a YouTube channel that will cover only original music compositions from allover the globe.

I got inspired after watching a you tuber muzungu who used a background track for his vlog and later Gor massive requests to do an episode on the whereabouts of the real artist that did the original song but he could find some guy that even couldn't show a picture of the original composer
 

MkukiMoto

Elder Lister
Guys I've always had this lingering thought in my head to start a YouTube channel that will cover only original music compositions from allover the globe.

I got inspired after watching a you tuber muzungu who used a background track for his vlog and later Gor massive requests to do an episode on the whereabouts of the real artist that did the original song but he could find some guy that even couldn't show a picture of the original composer
It would be a labour of love. So go for it Duke of Busia-shire.. just take the first step... to begin implementing your plan.
 
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