Penologist
Lister
And billions were lost in Bibi yai
We Never Learn : Drought & Hunger
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Clemens
Elder Lister
Officers posted over there with underlying issues die within a year or two. We have always assumed that it's due to something in that salty water.
It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
I keep on telling you,we ain't concerned with facts. We push the narrative...period
Wee kaa hapo ukingoja enlightened and informed exchanges.
....and,..... educate the masses my friend, is everybody participating here ignorant?
I assume from his comment that yours might also be a case of ignorance?
It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
Exactly. Ignorance clothed as facts. But again,on whose perspective are we basing our ignorance and or facts?
it is their turn to eat now
Ngimanene na Muchere
Elder Lister
My friend, there`s an authority and agency for everything huku GoK hata water harvesting agency
Field Marshal
Elder Lister
I have logged in and found bonoboz having a wankfest. And to imagine these are the educated ones!
I keep asking them, can't their two-cell brains understand the simple, very simple, logic of CAUSE-AND-EFFECT.
If despite all efforts a woman in Tana River, Marsabit, Garissa, Turkana etc is having an average 8 children, hiyo ni shida ya serikali?
If, despite efforts to build schools, half of girls in counties like Kilifi and Kwale don't return to school and their parents spend the whole day lazing around hiyo ni shida ya serikali?
Right now, stupid Pokots brought up by famine relief are causing a crisis in Laikipia and Samburu. Wakiambiwa wawache upuzi na upumbavu wa kurandaranda na emaciated cows all over the bloody place wanasema that is their culture.
Kukosa akili siyo shida ya serikali, ni yenyu wenyewe...........
Serre!
Field Marshal
Elder Lister
Finally, a guy who calls it as it is.............
Clemens
Elder Lister
I have participated in their programs, they are good but the target for the programs are either unwilling or engaged in petty squabbles to take advantage of seed, seedlings, trainings and waterpans/irrigation projects.
I have also been part of those programmes. Sometimes it is just the fact that money has been released that they do not consult their stakeholders on what they need. In this one programme they constructed green houses and expected the youth to take advantage of them and start doing commercial farming. The problem was that they had not consulted the youth when doing the planning and they later discovered that the youth had other pursuits apart from farming because they have farms back home. The funds would have been better utilised in educating the youth in better farming techniques, fertilizer distributions etc instead of building green houses
Mr Black
Elder Lister
Part of the reason why there is little buy-in is middlemen enjoying the profits at the expense of farmers, from potato farmers, tea and coffee farmers to mango farmers, as long as the farmer makes a pittance it is going to be very difficult to sell farming to pastrolists. Crop farming for them is a capital & labour intensive investment with little returns and pales in comparison to the livestock farming which they have perfected.
Same problem is hindering new investment in agriculture even in farming communities, counties need to help farmers gain a more central role in the supply chain, better returns will certainly do wonders for buy-in.
mr ShairMan
Lister
Some people here don't want us to blame the government simply because it has allocated money to the agencies concerned and has been eaten. So who the fuck else do they want us to blame.
that is one thing I find disconcerting, we have pushed vested interest even to discussions, especially ones that are critical or paint a negative picture.
anyway, when it comes to food security, analysis are usually carried out, mostly consensus based and you have the government and various ngo's and un agencies involved in the same, and they will have current scenarios and projected scenarios upto one year projections, and the whole idea is to give government and other donor agencies a practical scenario so that they can put in place mitigation measures.
Using various indicators and I have seen application of AI in this food security field of late, such announcements should not be happening, these are issues that are caught way before they occur.
Clemens
Elder Lister
Did you consult the youths or you are also assuming that you know better than them?
In the one that I was in training and baseline survey are conducted before implementation but partisan clan politics made it naught.
true, but culture is one aspect that is usually considered mostly as a contributing factor to food insecurity, of course drought, political instability, household income and the others. I have been involved in a few initiatives and at first I used to think these people are a bunch of stupid guys, I mean how can they not see how beneficial growing maize and potatoes to them, but the issue of culture is deep rooted and while its easy to call them lazy and and mindless while they walk with their emaciated livestock, it still remains a part of the livehood in those areas.
This is a generational thing, and the good thing is that its slowly changing, even the hardcore traditionalists in those areas are sending their kids to school, and most agree that its not a life they want their kids to have, but at the moment I think we should stop an elitist mentality (for lack of a better term) and see them as human beings who are held back by cultural circumstances that can not be made to disappear overnight, lets be patient with them continue investing and we will all benefit as a country in the long run.