This is Guka - Nikubaya Mafrens. Nikubaya..............

Denis Young

Elder Lister
Why are people talking abou the second wave as if it is Covid Plus. It is the same disease but the difference is, it is as a result of people taking it easy. People getting tired with the new normal and going back to previous routines which means that more people were exposed to the virus giving it that multiplier effect.

The truth is, more people are going to die because even 8 months later the central government and county governments have not even bothered to increase beds or bring in ventilators.

Just pray you are either asymptomatic or get mild symptoms. I have seen plenty people on twitter complain about lack of smell and taste. Classic mild symptom of Covid.
 

upepo

Elder Lister
Boss, kuna wakati wa jokes na wakati wa kuwa serious. Some of us know some of these people. Ni vile tuu nakuheshimu kidogo..................
No need for alarm, Covid has been killing humans for close to an year. The occupation is high-risk, meaning the casualty level should be above-average. Sadly, many health workers have not been the best examples in taking precautions.
 

Field Marshal

Elder Lister
Why are people talking abou the second wave as if it is Covid Plus. It is the same disease but the difference is, it is as a result of people taking it easy. People getting tired with the new normal and going back to previous routines which means that more people were exposed to the virus giving it that multiplier effect.

The truth is, more people are going to die because even 8 months later the central government and county governments have not even bothered to increase beds or bring in ventilators.

Just pray you are either asymptomatic or get mild symptoms. I have seen plenty people on twitter complain about lack of smell and taste. Classic mild symptom of Covid.
Your statement is BS😇😇😇. Anybody who has done basic virology knows that viruses mutate super fast. You can bet your last bpb that the Covid virus killing people now is NOT the novel Wuhan virus of December 2019.

Secondly, I don't get this silly obsession of blaming the gavament. Kenya has been praised by the WHO as being one of the developing countries with a robust Covid response. It is downright misleading to say bed capacity has not been increased or ventilators bought when everyday we have seen in the media the opposite.

The only thing you have got right is that people have relaxed, and gavament is partly to blame (rallies, BBI, etc).
 

Aviator

Elder Lister
Your statement is BS😇😇😇. Anybody who has done basic virology knows that viruses mutate super fast. You can bet your last bpb that the Covid virus killing people now is NOT the novel Wuhan virus of December 2019.

Secondly, I don't get this silly obsession of blaming the gavament. Kenya has been praised by the WHO as being one of the developing countries with a robust Covid response. It is downright misleading to say bed capacity has not been increased or ventilators bought when everyday we have seen in the media the opposite.

The only thing you have got right is that people have relaxed, and gavament is partly to blame (rallies, BBI, etc).
Cum slowly guka.
Are you saying that the kenyan ngavament has done its best in the role?
What happened to the musks donated by jack ma? What of the billions allocated to the pandemic?
If the shitty ngavament (which you voted twice) was responsible, every child would be in school with several masks and available soap and running water to maintain the hygiene standards. Each county would be having sufficient beds for the affected. Magogha scumpaka would have given a clear stand on resumption of schooling. Kagwe would be fired. Aliar should have been campaigning for safety measures not BBI. And Mwisi1 would not be holding wheelbarrow rallies with millions of gullible youth without even a mask.
 

Field Marshal

Elder Lister
Cum slowly guka.
Are you saying that the kenyan ngavament has done its best in the role?
What happened to the musks donated by jack ma? What of the billions allocated to the pandemic?
If the shitty ngavament (which you voted twice) was responsible, every child would be in school with several masks and available soap and running water to maintain the hygiene standards. Each county would be having sufficient beds for the affected. Magogha scumpaka would have given a clear stand on resumption of schooling. Kagwe would be fired. Aliar should have been campaigning for safety measures not BBI. And Mwisi1 would not be holding wheelbarrow rallies with millions of gullible youth without even a mask.
Short answer is that things are not always white or black. Sometimes they are grey. And grey can have a million shades. I was addressing the bed capacity issue SPECIFICALLY.
 

Clemens

Elder Lister
Kwanza those rallies by Ruto, Uhuru and Raila in different places like Kisumu, Nyeri, Kakamega etc
I know a few elders from my place that died after the BBI launch, the bishop whose church was teargassed in Kenol Murang'a County has also passed. It was a wise decision to stop the political gatherings, but people are not ceasing on social gatherings, it shall end in premium tears, one of the doctors pictured was in a popular bar along Ngong road just last week.
 

Jobi4

New Lister
The situation is bad.I know a clinical officer who left on Thursday.He was operating a clinic in my town.He was handling about 50 patients per day.That means hundreds have been exposed.Unfortunately the govt is not interested in contact tracing.
Sasa hio ni upuzi gani, ati contact tracing. Pahali imefika, contact tracing inasaidia nini, and then what? You're shepherded to hospitals that you can't pay for? COVID testing that you can't afford? Unajua ni pesa ngapi to be tested, not even treated?
 

Denis Young

Elder Lister
Your statement is BS😇😇😇. Anybody who has done basic virology knows that viruses mutate super fast. You can bet your last bpb that the Covid virus killing people now is NOT the novel Wuhan virus of December 2019.

Secondly, I don't get this silly obsession of blaming the gavament. Kenya has been praised by the WHO as being one of the developing countries with a robust Covid response. It is downright misleading to say bed capacity has not been increased or ventilators bought when everyday we have seen in the media the opposite.

The only thing you have got right is that people have relaxed, and gavament is partly to blame (rallies, BBI, etc).
Didn't we have a similar back and forth pre-covid and all my presumptions came out as fact.

I understand virology or at least the basics of it and another strain doesn't necessarily mean it becomes more potent. The virus is not an AI learning how to become a more effective killer. Viruses are not living things.

The government has not increased bed capacity in public hospitals. What happened is that they implemented the home care program which has led to a significant higher number of deaths most of which are unaccounted for.

What we are seeing now is exactly what I predicted a few months ago. Schools reopened and young students/university going students eventually go back home and expose their aging parents to the virus.

The campaigns were particularly the biggest spreader events that introduced the virus into village towns where traffic was minimal.

You can say that blaming the government is BS. That is true - for you as a middle class, upper class wannabe - but the super spreaders down below in the lower class, the ones who use public transport, the ones you buy your vegetables from, the ones who move around to every corner of this country, the ones who don't bother with masks or sanitation, then ones the government has totally ignored and made testing and treatment unaffordable for - those ones are the people who will deliver that precious new strain to your doorstep.

I pray they don't. You are only as safe as the poorest person in your country.
 

Mwalimu-G

Elder Lister
Don't know what to say when I see reports like this about the testing...
COVID-19: Elon Musk says 'something extremely bogus is going on' after he 'tests positive' and 'negative' for coronavirus
The billionaire chief executive of Tesla and SpaceX has repeatedly expressed scepticism about the pandemic.
Sunday 15 November 2020 06:13, UK


Elon Musk

Image:Elon Musk has expressed scepticism about the pandemic

Elon Musk claims to have taken four COVID-19 tests on the same day, two of which showed he was positive for the virus, and two that came back negative, as he stated "something extremely bogus is going on".
It is not the first time the outspoken billionaire has expressed scepticism about the coronavirus pandemic. Earlier this year, he described lockdowns as "forcibly imprisoning people in their homes" and "fascist".
 

Karma_mama

Elder Lister
Contact tracing is only effective if there is personal responsibility on the part of the citizens. Where I live it is working because there is effective communication with close contacts, immediate testing and quarantine. Even after a negative test the contacts have to self isolate for 10 days. This is not supervised. You only get a text reminder but most people are compliant. Why, because there is some compensation for lost income. The challenge for Kenya is lack of resources.
 

Karma_mama

Elder Lister
Don't know what to say when I see reports like this about the testing...
COVID-19: Elon Musk says 'something extremely bogus is going on' after he 'tests positive' and 'negative' for coronavirus
The billionaire chief executive of Tesla and SpaceX has repeatedly expressed scepticism about the pandemic.
Sunday 15 November 2020 06:13, UK


Elon Musk

Image:Elon Musk has expressed scepticism about the pandemic

Elon Musk claims to have taken four COVID-19 tests on the same day, two of which showed he was positive for the virus, and two that came back negative, as he stated "something extremely bogus is going on".
It is not the first time the outspoken billionaire has expressed scepticism about the coronavirus pandemic. Earlier this year, he described lockdowns as "forcibly imprisoning people in their homes" and "fascist".
People with different agendas are hellbent on spreading misinformation. News consumers now have an added responsibility to verify everything. It's the times we are in.
 
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