judiciary again

wrongturn

Elder Lister

Ke lawyers want to see no evil, hear no evil.
The Law was meant to compel lawyers to report any suspicious monies be it from corruption, terrorism, piracy etc.
 

wrongturn

Elder Lister
A stay order is temporary, lawyers haven't won yet and if they do consider the strength of their argument.
such orders, lawyers like grand mullah loves them, they'll keep renewing it like fuliza.OR they are doing clean up now and don't want to raise flags

But nikama doctors seeking stay orders against reporting gunshot wounds to cops claiming doctor-patient confidentiality.
 

Mr Black

Elder Lister
such orders, lawyers like grand mullah loves them, they'll keep renewing it like fuliza.OR they are doing clean up now and don't want to raise flags

But nikama doctors seeking stay orders against reporting gunshot wounds to cops claiming doctor-patient confidentiality.
Stay orders are a commonsense move regardless of the beneficiary, it wouldnt make sense having a matter under determination while a law whose legality could be overturned by the court is enforced, it would be chaos.

They are temporary, that is what matters.
 

Mr Black

Elder Lister
The fact that they oppose it is enough reason to believe that they are complicit.
I am no lawyer so I wont address the merits of the case, my only concern is this misconception of stay orders, it has become a running theme to use them as evidence that the Judiciary is anti-executive yet they are issued against all and sundry including private firms.

People need to calm down, stay orders are issued in the very early stages of a suit, they are not an indicator of who is going to win or lose.
 

wrongturn

Elder Lister
People need to calm down, stay orders are issued in the very early stages of a suit, they are not an indicator of who is going to win or lose.
sometimes they're unnecessary for the greater good. Some time back there was someone who was allowed temporarily to access their offices which was said to contain incriminating evidence. They cited human rights etc but the moment they were allowed, all evidence was lost. Can't remember the exact details.

Why can't the law stay as is, then proceed with the court case of merit and demerits ?
'coz am sure that stay order is a window for clean up.
 

It's Me Scumbag

Elder Lister
I am no lawyer so I wont address the merits of the case, my only concern is this misconception of stay orders, it has become a running theme to use them as evidence that the Judiciary is anti-executive yet they are issued against all and sundry including private firms.

People need to calm down, stay orders are issued in the very early stages of a suit, they are not an indicator of who is going to win or lose.
Why are they opposing it? That is to me incriminating them in the whole dark world of money laundering.
 

shocks

Elder Lister
Wacha niulize tena - who elected these wig-wearing clowns to run out country....
JSC as currently constituted will ensure there is no progress whenever a new law/court proceeding threatens dirty deals by lawyers/judges. Judges will rule in whatever way and JSC won't do jack
Some time back there was someone who was allowed temporarily to access their offices which was said to contain incriminating evidence. They cited human rights etc but the moment they were allowed, all evidence was lost. Can't remember the exact details.
Ule chairman wa National Lands Commission
 

Magreb

Elder Lister
Kwani wakenya ni maji gani hio mnakunywa inawafanya mkuwe wajinga hivyo? Sii watu waache mehemehe watuwekee the pleadings hapa. I refuse to imagine that there are judges hellbent on issuing orders without looking at the merits of the orders sought.
 

wrongturn

Elder Lister
Kwani wakenya ni maji gani hio mnakunywa inawafanya mkuwe wajinga hivyo? Sii watu waache mehemehe watuwekee the pleadings hapa. I refuse to imagine that there are judges hellbent on issuing orders without looking at the merits of the orders sought.


Justice James Makau issued the order following a request by Nairobi-based lawyer Omwanza Ombati, who argued that the amendments introduced in the Proceeds of Crime and Anti-Money Laundering (Amendment) Act by the National Assembly are harmful to practising advocates.

“Implementation of section 2(c) and section 14 (b) of the amended Act makes the advocates and their employees, who are not advocates, including accountants, clerks and cleaners, as reporting agents of the Financial Reporting Centre (FRC). Offices of advocates have been made junked police station,” said Mr Ombati.


In granting the temporary order, Justice Makau said Mr Ombati had demonstrated that advocates stand to suffer prejudice if the amendments, which came into force on January 3, 2022, are enforced.

“Pending the hearing, a conservatory order is hereby issued stopping any further implementation of section 2(c) and section 14 (b) of the Proceeds of Crime and Anti-money Laundering Amendment Act (2021) as regards to the advocates and their staff,” the judge ordered.


 

Magreb

Elder Lister
Justice James Makau issued the order following a request by Nairobi-based lawyer Omwanza Ombati, who argued that the amendments introduced in the Proceeds of Crime and Anti-Money Laundering (Amendment) Act by the National Assembly are harmful to practising advocates.

“Implementation of section 2(c) and section 14 (b) of the amended Act makes the advocates and their employees, who are not advocates, including accountants, clerks and cleaners, as reporting agents of the Financial Reporting Centre (FRC). Offices of advocates have been made junked police station,” said Mr Ombati.


In granting the temporary order, Justice Makau said Mr Ombati had demonstrated that advocates stand to suffer prejudice if the amendments, which came into force on January 3, 2022, are enforced.

“Pending the hearing, a conservatory order is hereby issued stopping any further implementation of section 2(c) and section 14 (b) of the Proceeds of Crime and Anti-money Laundering Amendment Act (2021) as regards to the advocates and their staff,” the judge ordered.


Naomba pleadings wewe unaniwekea ile kitu ya kufunga nyama. Anyway, even from the meat wrappers, it appears the learned judge addressed himself to issues raised before him and did not pull orders from his ass as you wanted us to believe. Ama wewe unaelewa aje mambo ya prejudice?
 
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