India wanajipanga

Field Marshal

Elder Lister
I don't know how many times I will tell you this. China is made up more than 94% of Han Chinese. They are very insular and united. Unlike countries like the US, or Kenya, China is described as a civilisational state - it has existed in one form or the other for about 2,000 years. It's older than the Bible.

What's more, today it's population is about 20% of the world.

For much of record human history, it was the dominant economic power. It is headed there again in 10 years or less.

Good luck trying to fight a solid block like that which has already achieved breakout velocity in science and innovation.....
 

Lerionka

New Lister
Whats the possibility of any significant numbers jobs leaving China ending up in africa hasa .ke ?
The problem with Kenya is corruption. Politicians will want a share of the money instead of creating incentives.
A story run sometime back on a tech company looking to set up African servers in Kenya. The politicos got greedy demanding bribes and offering no incentives. Finally another country stepped in or so it goes.
We might think our votes are jokes but our politics is cancerous at best. It's killing us. We see the tumor and think oh it's getting fat, it's part of us so we're getting fat as well. But eventually, eventually Kenya will and has already become a cautionary tale.
 

upepo

Elder Lister
Been watching some Indian news and those guys are licking their lips and rubbing their palms waiting for companies to move from China. And guess what they're using as a competitive advantage over other nations???? Their huge population which they say is an attractive market for investors.


The Indian govermment has hand-picked 10 sectors -- electrical, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, electronics, heavy engineering, solar equipment, food processing, chemicals and textiles -- as focus areas for promoting manufacturing


Now hear this. Their government has identified 461,000 hectares of land for manufacturing moving out of China. At present investors keen on setting up factories in India need to acquire land of their own which was the biggest obstacles for investors.
Not in a thousand years will India ever replace China as a manufacturing hub. They have always had their big population, they have always been favored by Western Nations over China, but despite all these, the money is in China. India suffers from deep systemic issues such as a poorly educated population, corruption, crude capitalism, and poor infrastructure to mention but a few. The supply chain efficiency in China is unmatched anywhere in the world, even if half of the country were to shut down.
 
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AU5

Administrator
Staff member
Whats the possibility of any significant numbers jobs leaving China ending up in africa hasa .ke ?

with this current regime, ZERO.

Dangote
Jack Ma
Samsung

All tried to bring jobs here and failed due to the bribes our politicians were asking from them. They took those jobs to other countries like Ethiopia, Rwanda

Currently, the government is trying to kill everything. High taxes, high power costs, Increasing taxes on the Internet. Killing tea and coffee, Farmers in Rift Valley crying because their maize are not being bought

We might just have the 80's and 90's brain drain
 

Eng'iti

Elder Lister
with this current regime, ZERO.

Dangote
Jack Ma
Samsung

All tried to bring jobs here and failed due to the bribes our politicians were asking from them. They took those jobs to other countries like Ethiopia, Rwanda

Currently, the government is trying to kill everything. High taxes, high power costs, Increasing taxes on the Internet. Killing tea and coffee, Farmers in Rift Valley crying because their maize are not being bought

We might just have the 80's and 90's brain drain
Kwa kweli our neighbors are overtaking us.
 

Okiya

Elder Lister
Not in a thousand years will India ever replace China as a manufacturing hub. They have always had their big population, they have always been favored by Western Nations over China, but despite all this, the money is in China. India suffers from deep systemic issues such as a poorly educated population, corruption, crude capitalism, and poor infrastructure to mention but a few. The supply chain efficiency in China is unmatched anywhere in the world, even if half of the country were to shut down.
Not about replacing China in all manufacturing. But there are 150 export items where the Indian government feel they can compete with China.
 

upepo

Elder Lister
Not about replacing China in all manufacturing. But there are 150 export items where the Indian government feel they can compete with China.
Feeling has no place in economics; only action matter. The Indian domestic market is under heavy assault from Chinese imports, despite the high level of protectionism. How well will they fare in export markets when they cannot protect their own local market. Actually, the Southeast Asian economies are way more competitive. They would be the first candidates in case of a Chinese exodus. Picture this, the Indian drug market sources 75 percent of its ingredients from China despite the fact that India is touted as a success story in pharmaceuticals. The Western media has a way of massaging India's ego so that it does not view itself as a failure. India is essentially Africa without internal borders, conflicts, and with about two decades more of independence.
 
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Okiya

Elder Lister
Feeling has no place in economics; only action matter. The Indian domestic market is under heavy assault from Chinese imports, despite the high level of protectionism. How well will they fare in export markets when they cannot protect their own local market. Actually, the Southeast Asian economies are way more competitive. They would be the first candidates in case of a Chinese exodus. Picture this, the Indian drug market sources 75 percent of it ingredients from China despite the fact that India is touted as a success story in pharmaceuticals. The Western media has a way of massaging India's ego so that it does not view itself as a failure. India is essentially Africa without internal borders, conflicts, and with about two decades more of independence.

And the thread is actions India is taking. One being land was a very big obstacle for investors.
I repeat nobody is saying India will overtake China. But the fact remains that there are countries that want to move away from China. Japan is an example. There are stories of Korean companies wanting to retract their factories from China . India is targeting these companies.
 
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