Do you agree with Prof. Kivutha Kibwana?

mzeiya

Elder Lister
The upcoming election will be close.
Very, very close as things stand.

However, we are a democracy where one aspirant wins and the other waits for the next election while at the same time critiquing the sitting gafment.
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Hii upuss ya nusu mkate hakuna mtu inasaidia ila tu mabwenyenye wenye hawawezi vumilia miaka tano.

Even though we're caught in between a rock and a hard place, it should be that if Raila wins, we support his administration and if Ruto does so, the same.

Maoni yenyu?
 

wrongturn

Elder Lister
it should be that if Raila wins, we support his administration and if Ruto does so, the same.
I disagree with that, most folks are blaming the current mess to the handshake in 2018. Looser should support the government by putting it in check, let them play the role of opposition well. Let's have lively debates in parliament instead of rubber stamping in the name of support.
 

mzeiya

Elder Lister
I disagree with that, most folks are blaming the current mess to the handshake in 2018. Looser should support the government by putting it in check, let them play the role of opposition well. Let's have lively debates in parliament instead of rubber stamping in the name of support.
That's what I meant that the losing side should spend the 5 years critiquing the administration that takes over from Ouru.
 

It's Me Scumbag

Elder Lister
I disagree with that, most folks are blaming the current mess to the handshake in 2018. Looser should support the government by putting it in check, let them play the role of opposition well. Let's have lively debates in parliament instead of rubber stamping in the name of support.
ODM abdicated that role the day the handcheque happened. That was a sad day in Kenya poltricks
 

Kdawg254

Elder Lister
The truth is we’ve only had one person not accepting defeat which has thereby resulted in violence!
We have had 6 multiparty elections and only after 2007 (4th) did we have post election violence after a loser did not accept the results!
Tuwache kudanganyana since the previous 3 elections we also had losers who didn’t accept the results but didn’t lead their people to violence!
 

It's Me Scumbag

Elder Lister
The truth is we’ve only had one person not accepting defeat which has thereby resulted in violence!
We have had 6 multiparty elections and only after 2007 (4th) did we have post election violence after a loser did not accept the results!
Tuwache kudanganyana since the previous 3 elections we also had losers who didn’t accept the results but didn’t lead their people to violence!
There was was also the illegal swearing in...
 

The.Black.Templar

Elder Lister
Staff member
The truth is we’ve only had one person not accepting defeat which has thereby resulted in violence!
We have had 6 multiparty elections and only after 2007 (4th) did we have post election violence after a loser did not accept the results!
Tuwache kudanganyana since the previous 3 elections we also had losers who didn’t accept the results but didn’t lead their people to violence!
Umesahau wapi PEV ya 2017/2018?
 

Mwalimu-G

Elder Lister
most folks are blaming the current mess to the handshake in 2018
So the handshake stole the Kimwarer and Arror money for example? Watu waache kubeba wengine ujinga.

We have had 6 multiparty elections and only after 2007 (4th) did we have post election violence after a loser did not accept the results!
What do you call the goings on on teargas Mondays?
 

mkurugenzi

Elder Lister
The truth is we’ve only had one person not accepting defeat which has thereby resulted in violence!
We have had 6 multiparty elections and only after 2007 (4th) did we have post election violence after a loser did not accept the results!
Tuwache kudanganyana since the previous 3 elections we also had losers who didn’t accept the results but didn’t lead their people to violence!
Election related violence was there in 1992, 1997, that is even before baba was ever on the ballot running for election. In 2007 the violence was unleashed again but this time the perpetrators used baba (and his grievances) as the perfect cover for their crimes.
 

DeepInYourMind

Elder Lister
Winner takes all politics doesn't work well in Kenya, there are always pockets of violence. Even 40% of Kenyans is a large number of people being left out of govt.

Kenyans have demonstrated an inability to conduct sober and mature politics, and this unnecessarily hurts the fragile economy each election cycle with investors staying away.

Let them form one govt and battle it out in parliament and executive.
 

Mwalimu-G

Elder Lister
Winner takes all politics doesn't work well in Kenya, there are always pockets of violence. Even 40% of Kenyans is a large number of people being left out of govt.

Kenyans have demonstrated an inability to conduct sober and mature politics, and this unnecessarily hurts the fragile economy each election cycle with investors staying away.

Let them form one govt and battle it out in parliament and executive.
Or we have a Chinese model one party rule where the General assembly is elected by the county assembly delegates.
 

Kdawg254

Elder Lister
Election related violence was there in 1992, 1997, that is even before baba was ever on the ballot running for election. In 2007 the violence was unleashed again but this time the perpetrators used baba (and his grievances) as the perfect cover for their crimes.
Only responsible for what I write,how you understand it is beyond my realm of possibilities!
 
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