bigDog
Elder Lister
Lighten up boss. Weka siasa kwa roho ndiyo upate pressure. Cenji
David Ndii speaks
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bigDog
Elder Lister
It's like these guys have been indoctrinated to makasiriko. Poking fun at them has now become a dangerous sport. Sisi tulishindwo tukanyama. Wao kudanganywa about non existent 50 birion inakua story ya kuweka Kwa roho. Hata wao watie lube bila kusumbua. Mtu akichoka kusoma siasa hapa, aende MCA assembly.
JazzMan
Elder Lister
No, you'll point out the problems while working on solutions. Just because you have the responsibility for coming up with solutions does not transfer culpability for creating those problems to yourself.
JazzMan
Elder Lister
They were strangers to that house. They were kicked out, and there is a presidential order to that effect. Just because occupants of that house would tell them of goings on does not mean they received the full story of what actually happened.
They are blaming them for creating the problems, which could have been easily avoided. It doesn't take away from the fact KK still have to come up with a solution to the problems.
If person A stabs person B to near death, and it is the job of Dr. C to treat person B back to good health, Dr. C is within his rights to blame person A for injuring person B, even though it doesn't absolve Dr. C of his responsibilities.
Dr.C would not know the extent of Person Bs injuries until performing a thorough assessment, then Dr.C can say, the extent of the injuries Prrson A caused are far beyond what he initially thought they were.
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Montecarlo
Elder Lister
JazzMan
Elder Lister
Yes, it is the fault of handshake brothers for not instituting prudent measures to salvage the situation (BBI which cost billions was more important), in spite of the prevailing economic situation. Pointing that out is not deceit, neither does it mean KK knew the full extent of the rot handshake brothers had fostered.
There is nothing wrong in pointing out the extent of the problem, especially since they may not have had knowledge of the full extent of the problem.
Rumours by KK is that BBI cost 10B. The government of course denies it. But assuming that it's true, you want to say the economic predicament we are in is because of 10B spent on BBI?
The full extent of the problem was known by KK. Nothing new has been unearthed because they came to office.
Pastor
Lister
Do not speak abusively of what you don’t understand
. It was Abraham! And he got away with it. Lucky ndume! 
JazzMan
Elder Lister
That 10B was the figure gobbled up by the committee just to come up with the report. We are yet to get the figure attributable to the other costs such as popularisation, bribery, intimidation, and other miscellaneous costs. Between 2018 and 2022, how many billions do you think the handshake thugs would have cost the taxpayer?
In that same time, they were busy fighting the so-called tanga tanga and passing laws, regulations and policies that benefited the few at the top. All countries experienced covid and its after effects but somehow its the few inept countries and leaders like the handshake thugs whose countries didn't find a way through.
We still don't know who the covid billionaires are and other scandals. How much was lost to such kinds of brazen looting?
KK may have known of the problems, but didn't know the full extent.
Extract of August 2022 UNCTAD report on impact of COVID 19 in Africa. It's clear from this report that the impact is perversive in Africa.
The western countries that you have in mind that found their way through printed money and gave its citizens
How many scandals were there between 2018-2022 compared to 2013-2017?
bigDog
Elder Lister
Many of us said the economy was bad due to the policies adopted before covid hit. Some people like David Ndīi were opposed to borrowing even before covid. The rest, like I, the two super goons and many of you supported borrowing to build infrastructure. Then covid came, Russia Ukraine war happened and then the draught. That's a perfect storm.
Za ovyo ni kusema mlidanywa mkameza Kool aid ya Goebbels Ole Itumbi? It was just a hate campaign targeted at Uhuru. Even the most dyed in wool mfuasi can see through it. That's why the ever-affraid-of-police goon sounds like a broken record.
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JazzMan
Elder Lister
Did the number of scandals between 2013 to 2017 stop the handhshake thugs and covid billionaires from stealing even more between 2018 to 2022?
Did the theft in macho nyanya's first term absolve the handshake thugs from their responsibility of ensuring the country meets its fiscal responsibilities?
Did the theft in macho nyanya's first term absolve the handshake thugs of the responsibility of preparing the country to deal with the rolling droughts?
Null and Void were a disaster for this country. Period.
JazzMan
Elder Lister
You do know Africa is not a monolith, right?
Wegrow
Elder Lister
Tell us what's happening, Google might not help Mr hesabu
The only scandal you can mention 2018-2022 was Covid.
Tell us the countries that have come out stronger.