Carabao, Champions League and Europa League Draws.....

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Mishale

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Carabao Cup quarter-final draw (Today from 11.30pm)



Manchester City are the current holders (Image: Getty Images)

Despite the 2020-21 campaign being slightly delayed as a result of the coronavirus pandemic, the final will still be contested at a similar time of year to usual after the early rounds have been sped through.

The final is set to take place on February 28 at Wembley, with the single-legged semi-finals being played over January 5/6 at the start of next year.

The draw for the competition’s quarter-finals will take place on Thursday, October 1, shortly after Liverpool’s match against Arsenal (kick-off 9.45pm) - live on Sky Sports.
All four quarter-final matches will be broadcast live on Sky Sports across 22 and 23 December.

Teams remaining in the Carabao Cup
1) Tottenham Hotspur
2) Newcastle United
3) Manchester City
4) Manchester United
5) Everton

6) Brentford or Fulham- Thursday, October 1 - 7:30pm

7) Aston Villa or Stoke City - Thursday, October 1 - 9:00pm

8) Liverpool or Arsenal - Thursday, October 1 - 9:45pm


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Champions League draw (today from 6pm)


Bayern Munich celebrate

Bayern Munich beat PSG in last season's Champions League final

After Wednesday's final round of qualifying games, the line-up for the Champions League group stage is complete and the draw takes place on Thursday at 16:00 BST - you can follow live text coverage of the draw on the BBC Sport website.

Here is everything you need to know.

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How does the draw work?
Teams will be split into four pots, with pot one containing the holders, the Europa League winners and champions of the six highest-ranked nations.
Pots two, three and four are determined by Uefa's club coefficient rankings.
There are 26 teams who gained direct entry to the group stage and they will be joined by the six winners of the play-off ties.

No team can be draw against another from their own association, meaning the four English sides Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea will be kept apart.

Any changes to be aware of?

Last season's final took place on 23 August which means the group stages start later than usual. However, the knockout ties scheduled for March, April and May remain unchanged, with the final taking place on 29 May at Istanbul's Ataturk Stadium.

Matches will take place on a home and away basis but it remains to be seen whether fans will be allowed to attend.

What is the British interest?

Liverpool are in pot one after winning the Premier League last season, while runners-up Manchester City, third-placed Manchester United and Chelsea who finished fourth are all in pot two.

Scottish champions Celtic missed out on a place in the competition after suffering a shock defeat against Ferencvaros in the second qualifying round.

What are the pots?

Pot one: Bayern Munich, Sevilla, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Juventus, Paris St-Germain, Zenit St Petersburg, Porto.

Pot two: Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Manchester City, Manchester United, Shakhtar Donetsk, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea, Ajax.

Pots three and four: Dynamo Kiev, Red Bull Salzburg, RB Leipzig, Inter Milan, Olympiakos, Lazio, Krasnodar, Atalanta, Lokomotiv Moscow, Marseille, Club Brugge, Borussia Monchengladbach, Istanbul Basaksehir, Midtjylland, Rennes, Ferencvaros.

*Three more teams from the play-offs will be added to this group before the pots are split in two

When are the match days?

Matchday one: 20/21 October

Matchday two: 27/28 October

Matchday three: 3/4 November

Matchday four: 24/25 November

Matchday five: 1/2 December

Matchday six: 8/9 December

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Europa League draw (tomorrow from 2pm)

Sevilla celebrate

Sevilla beat Inter Milan in last season's Europa League final

How does the draw work?

The 48 teams will be split into four pots - determined by their club coefficient rankings - to form 12 groups.

In some cases, where associations have two or more teams involved in the draw, they may be paired so that they play with different kick-off times for the benefit of TV audiences.

Once again, no team can be draw against another from their own association, so English sides Leicester City and Arsenal will avoid facing each other.

Who will be in the draw?

The 18 automatic qualifiers - Villarreal, Real Sociedad, Leicester, Arsenal, Napoli, Roma, Bayer Leverkusen, Hoffenheim, Lille, Nice, Braga, Feyenoord, Wolfsburg, CSKA Moscow, Royal Antwerp, Zorya Luhansk, Sivasspor, Sparta Prague - along with Benfica, AZ Alkmaar, and Rapid Vienna who were eliminated from the Champions League third qualifying round.

They will be joined by 21 winners from the play-off round and six teams who are eliminated from the Champions League play-off

What is the British interest?

Leicester were beaten to a top-four place on final day of the Premier League season to finish fifth and end up in the Europa League. Mikel Arteta steered Arsenal to victory in the FA Cup final over Chelsea to claim a spot in the competition.

North London rivals Tottenham meet Maccabi Haifa at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in the play-off round on Thursday for a spot in the draw.

Two Scottish Premiership sides are also in third qualifying round action on Thursday; Celtic are away against Bosnian side FK Sarajevo while Rangers host Turkish giants Galatasaray.

When are the match days?

Matchday one: 22 October

Matchday two: 29 October

Matchday three: 5 November

Matchday four: 26 November

Matchday five: 3 December

Matchday six: 10 December


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Champions League group stage draw: Who are the most likely opponents for Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea?
By Julien Guyon an hour ago

The Champions League group stage draw takes place this evening – and thanks to the power of maths, we already have some idea of who will face who

Champions League trophy

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The eight groups of four teams each will be drawn from four pots of eight teams; each group is made of one team randomly drawn from each pot.

Since 2015, UEFA seeds the domestic champions of the highest-ranked leagues in pot 1 together with the title holder. In 2018, the Europa League title holder also gained direct access to pot 1.
The following pots are built following the UEFA club coefficient, with the 'best' teams in pot 2 and the 'weakest' teams in pot 4.

All English teams are in pots 1 and 2. Premier League champions Liverpool are in pot 1, while Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea have been seeded in pot 2.

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How the calculations work: the obvious bit
The groups will not be formed completely at random. One well-known UEFA rule is that two teams from the same country cannot be drawn into the same group. This greatly impacts the draw probabilities.

For instance, Liverpool can only be drawn against five teams from pot 2: Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, Shakhtar Donetsk, Borussia Dortmund and Ajax. As a consequence, Ajax, even though it can play against all pot 1 teams, will have an almost 20% chance of facing Liverpool – but only around an 8% chance of facing Juventus, Paris Saint-Germain or Porto.

One could think that Liverpool has exactly a probability 20% of being drawn against each of its five possible pot 2 opponents. This would indeed be the case if the draw started with randomly picking one of those five teams. However this is not how the draw works.

Pot 1 teams are first placed randomly in groups A to H. Then pot 2 is emptied, and each time a team is drawn from pot 2 a computer lists the admissible groups for that team. (This is not as simple as it looks, as it requires checking for possible dead-ends.)

Another less known rule complicates the computation even more. UEFA uses TV pairings so as to maximize TV viewing. Paired teams from the same country, say Real Madrid and Barcelona, are allocated to two different halves of the groups (groups ABCD vs groups EFGH), so that if one team plays on the Tuesday, the other team plays on the Wednesday.

This year the TV pairings have not been made public yet, but for England we have assumed that Liverpool is paired with Manchester United, like two years ago, and that City is paired with Chelsea. In particular, this means that during the draw, if Liverpool is placed in groups ABCD, United fans can presume that the Red Devils can only be drawn in groups EFGH.

TV pairings make the probability calculations even more complex. They have a complicated impact on the draw probabilities, which is often underestimated.

Crunching the numbers
In order to estimate the correct draw probabilities, I have simulated 90,000 draws following exactly the UEFA procedure. The most likely matchups are Liverpool vs Barcelona or Atletico (around 21.5% each); the least likely ones are Ajax vs Juventus, PSG or Porto (just north of 8% each).

The most likely opponents of Manchester United are Real Madrid and Sevilla (around 17% each); the Red Devils only have about a 13% chance of facing Juventus, PSG or Porto.

Manchester City and Chelsea have similar draw probabilities, but are a little less likely to be drawn against Real Madrid or Sevilla than Manchester United.

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Champions League group stage draw: Who are the most likely opponents for Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea?

The Champions League group stage draw takes place this evening – and thanks to the power of maths, we already have some idea of who will face who
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Mishale

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Best and worst case scenarios for Manchester United in Champions League draw



Manchester United will learn their Champions League group stage fate today.

The four pots were confirmed last night and the draw will take place at 6pm today in Geneva.
United find themselves in Pot 2 upon their return to European football’s top table.

Here’s a look at the teams we could face in the group stage…


Best case scenario
There are some relatively gentle potential opponents in Pot 1.
We couldn’t take anything for granted against Porto, but they look the best case scenario here, with Zenit and Sevilla also acceptable given the alternatives.

Pot 3 contains a mixture of potential banana skins and tricky away trips.
Krasnodar and Dynamo Kiev are probably the weakest opponents on paper, although the long trip wouldn’t be ideal for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

Club Brugge are in Pot 4, and United saw them off 6-1 on aggregate in last season’s Europa League. Rennes and Celtic’s conquerers Ferencváros also shouldn’t cause too many problems.

Best case scenario: Porto, Krasnodar and Ferencváros.



Worst case scenario

United’s European destiny could look very different. Naturally, there are some big hitters in Pot 1.
Reigning champions Bayern Munich are probably the most ominous potential opponent, given they won every single European game last season en route to lifting the trophy.

Real Madrid would be a very tricky tie, too. Juventus and Paris Saint-Germain are probably best avoided but United have beat both on their own patch in the 2018/19 season.

So what of the aforementioned Pot 3 banana skins? Inter looked to be on a Europa League collision course with United last season, and could lie in wait here.

RB Leipzig made the semi-finals last season and free-scoring Atalanta came within minutes of doing the same – both would be tough to beat.

Borussia Mönchengladbach are probably the best team in Pot 4, with the length of travel time making Locomotiv Moscow and İstanbul Başakşehir less than ideal, if very beatable, opposition.


Worst case scenario: Real Madrid, Inter and Borussia Mönchengladbach.


whats your prediction?
 
mzeiya

mzeiya

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Can't wait for Arsenal to join the teams above a year from now and win it by the time Kivutha becomes preseident.

Am I disillusioned? Maybe.
 
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Mishale

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mzeiya said:
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Can't wait for Arsenal to join the teams above a year from now and win it by the time Kivutha becomes preseident.

Am I disillusioned? Maybe.
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maybe, maybe not.

but first you have to get through your tricky first games of the season. so far so good. (Liverpool is a team way above the rest, so dont feel bad losing to them)
 
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Mishale

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who will win the Awards
They are announcing a load of Uefa awards during this draw. Here are the awards and the nominees. We'll let you know who wins each one...

Men's Player of the Year: De Bruyne, Lewandowski, Neuer = (Lewandowski,)

Women's Player of the Year: Bronze, Harder, Renard = (Harder)

Men's Coach of the Year: Flick, Klopp, Nagelsmann = (Flick)

Women's Coach of the Year: Cortés, Lerch, Vasseur = (Vasseur)

Goalkeeper of the Season: Navas, Neuer, Oblak = (Neuer)

Defender of the Season: Alaba, Davies, Kimmich = (Kimmich)

Midfielder of the Season: De Bruyne, Müller, Thiago = (De Bruyne,)

Forward of the Season: Lewandowski, Mbappé, Neymar = (Lewandowski,)

Women's Goalkeeper of the Season: Bouhaddi, Endler, Paños = (Bouhaddi,)

Women's Defender of the Season: Bronze, Goessling, Renard = (Renard)

Women's Midfielder of the Season: Gunnarsdóttir, Marozsán, Popp = (Marozsán)

Women's Forward of the Season: Cascarino, Harder, Miedema = (Harder)

Europa League Player of the Season: Banega, Bruno Fernandes, Lukaku (Lukaku)
 
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Mishale

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as things stand

GROUP A
Bayern Munich
Atletico Madrid


GROUP B
Real Madrid
Shakhtar


GROUP C
FC Porto
MANCHESTER CITY


GROUP D
LIVERPOOL
Ajax


GROUP E
Sevilla
CHELSEA


GROUP F
Zenit St Petersburg
Borussia Dortmund


GROUP G
Juventus
Barcelona


GROUP H
PSG
MANCHESTER UNITED
 
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musyimi

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Man Utd will find it hard to get out of their group as Psg will top the group and i don't think we can beat Leipzig on our current form.
 
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Mishale

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musyimi said:
Man Utd will find it hard to get out of their group as Psg will top the group and i don't think we can beat Leipzig on our current form.
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i also foresee that, but we beat PSG when we were at our lowest. both teams will face us knowing we are underdogs.
also, the CL usually doesn't care what the team's home league form or position is like.

i actually believe Untd will have a top moment where we might go 10 or so games unbeaten just like before the Corona break.
lets hope for the best
 
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Mishale

Elder Lister
Europa League Group Stage
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UEFA will confirm the exact match schedule later on Friday, but here are the provisional dates for the six matchdays in the 2020/21 Europa League group stage.

Matchday 1: October 22
Matchday 2: October 29
Matchday 3: November 5
Matchday 4: November 26
Matchday 5: December 3
Matchday 6: December 10


Video Assistant Referee (VAR) will not be introduced for the group phase, as was the original plan. It will still be used in the knockout stage, with introduction for the group stage in 2021/22.
 
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