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Ice_Cube said:
They do stay indoors more. But at least they interact less with the public. There are less variables to take care of with the government restrictions in place. I also have not visited them in two months despite them being less than thirty minutes away from where I stay. What I am trying to say is that the same guys trying to push the govt to open up are the same ones that will accuse it of incompetence when they bring the virus to their vulnerable persons. They are the same people that caused a ruckus after the Chinese airline landed and called for a total shut down. I wonder what changed.
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Govt let the country down bigtime when they allowed all those planes to land. But the virus is already here now and its not going away, the numbers will continue rising all the way untill December, this is a fact, we did the numbers with some friends. So what do we do?
 
Can akina Amoth do a study on face masks and tell us their efficiency. Instead of churning doomsday models as the reasons for closing the counties.
 
The.Black.Templar said:
Govt let the country down bigtime when they allowed all those planes to land. But the virus os already here now and its not going away, the numbers will continue rising all the way untill December, this is a fact, we did the numbers with some friends. So what do we do?
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so do we continue digging a hole? Yes the government made a mistake. Do we bury our head in the sand like Burundi or TZ?
 
Ice_Cube said:
They do stay indoors more. But at least they interact less with the public. There are less variables to take care of with the government restrictions in place. I also have not visited them in two months despite them being less than thirty minutes away from where I stay. What I am trying to say is that the same guys trying to push the govt to open up are the same ones that will accuse it of incompetence when they bring the virus to their vulnerable persons. They are the same people that caused a ruckus after the Chinese airline landed and called for a total shut down. I wonder what changed.
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Iced chieth,what are you fearing bro?be brave
 
Ice_Cube said:
so do we continue digging a hole? Yes the government made a mistake. Do we bury our head in the sand like Burundi or TZ?
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How is the alternative of locking down Mombasa, Nairobi and Mandera indefinately a better solution? People have already lost jobs and livelyhoods... It all boils down to personal caution, but human interaction cannot be avoided
 
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The.Black.Templar said:
How is the alternative of locking down Mombasa, Nairobi and Mandera indefinately better solution? People has already lost jobs and livelyhoods... It all boils down to personal caution, but human interaction cannot be avoided
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Locking down the hotspots is not indefinite. It is informed by our country's capacity. We are already struggling with the cases in these hotspots. We do not have the capacity to trace and track a countrywide pandemic. It is best that they get concentrated and we only deal with outliers once in a while. The capacity is being developed
 
Ice_Cube said:
Locking down the hotspots is not indefinite. It is informed by our country's capacity. We are already struggling with the cases in these hotspots. We do not have the capacity to trace and track a countrywide pandemic. It is best that they get concentrated and we only deal with outliers once in a while.
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Nairobi alone is a city of 5 million people, the cases shot up to between 90 and 160 per day recently, for sure by the end of 30 days we will start recording 200 cases per day from the trends. Best case scenario we stagnate at around 200 cases per day and assume we tip the curve at that point. By Dec there will be around 36k cases having tested approx 1.5 million Nairobians (just a fraction of the total nairobi population) assuming the positive cases are 2.5% of the total tested. At what point to we assume that it is now safe to start doing business normally again? Or atleast open up the counties and country at large?

The main driver of this theory is that the gavament is doing absolutely nothing apart from restricting movement.
 
Ice_Cube said:
What I am trying to say is that the same guys trying to push the govt to open up are the same ones that will accuse it of incompetence when they bring the virus to their vulnerable persons. They are the same people that caused a ruckus after the Chinese airline landed and called for a total shut down
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WORD.
 
The.Black.Templar said:
Nairobi alone is a city of 5 million people, the cases shot up to between 90 and 160 per day recently, for sure by the end of 30 days we will start recording 200 cases per day from the trends. Best case scenario we stagnate at around 200 cases per day and assume we tip the curve at that point. By Dec there will be around 36k cases having tested approx 1.5 million Nairobians (just a fraction of the total nairobi population) assuming the positive cases are 2.5% of the total tested. At what point to we assume that it is now safe to start doing business normally again? Or atleast open up the counties and country at large?

The main driver of this theory is that the gavament is doing absolutely nothing apart from restricting movement.
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There are already taskforces to formulate an opening strategy (forgive my NGO lingua I am no NGO persons). But seriously, the economy and society is being restructured. It is understandable tutaumia... In short the government is not doing nothing
 
Ice_Cube said:
Locking down the hotspots is not indefinite. It is informed by our country's capacity. We are already struggling with the cases in these hotspots. We do not have the capacity to trace and track a countrywide pandemic. It is best that they get concentrated and we only deal with outliers once in a while. The capacity is being developed
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So in your estimation how much capacity should we build so that we can end the lockdown? e.g. how many hospital beds?
 
I told y'all. We have to learnt to.live with the virus. Ukigonjeka unaenda hosi,wengine tunaendelea na maisha.
We won't stop living because of corona.
That argument ishachoka... Tigai gutwenderia guoya.
 
Ice_Cube said:
There are already taskforces to formulate an opening strategy (forgive my NGO lingua I am no NGO persons). But seriously, the economy and society is being restructured. It is understandable tutaumia... In short the government is not doing nothing
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What have they achieved in the last four months? For sure the Jubilee party, the senate and parliament have achieved more in the last three weeks than those secret taskforces...
 
Okiya said:
So in your estimation how much capacity should we build so that we can end the lockdown?
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Honestly, I do not know. Ni kama ukienda kukojoa with a full bladder in an open place. Una release pole pole and stop to see kama unaonekana. That is the case. Ease restrictions and build capacity depending on how the pressure is. Maybe a year from now tutajua
 
The.Black.Templar said:
What have they achieved in the last four months? For sure the Jubilee party, the senate and parliament have achieved more in the last three weeks than those secret taskforces...
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Seriously the black that question of "What have they achieved in the last four months?" compared to what? total death? we do not know what would have happened if they had taken a Burundian approach. We do not know bana. But atleast we are relying on empirical studies rather than innuendos
 
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