When a secular person uses the word faith it means belief based on the evidence provided. As in the case of the big bang, all physics models and gathered evidence that point to this being the case.
you are terribly wrong my fren - you're now inventing new vocabulary
Now if you believe things without evidence then that is shitty way to live. Because you will believe anything.
so you mean religious people live shitty ?
may also means big bang theorist live shitty too because they believe nothing gave rise to something (crazy haaa !!!!! ,no real evidence to support the theory)
You can believe things based on bad evidence. However, you need to critically think to determine if the evidence you have is bad or good based on any counterproposals.
what if all the "counterproposals" are all based on bad evidence too ?, doesn't that mean yo have "faith" based on bad evidence ?.
just like in the big bang theory.
Here is a thought experiment. Ask yourself this: between your "experience" of spirits and those who claim to have been abducted by aliens, which of you has a more credible claim bases on whatever evidence you have? And what makes one claim more credible than the other?
You should also have included the big bang theorist
who is more credible
the spirit world believer
the alien abductees
or the big bang theorists
all i can say is - The craziest of the lot must be "big bang theorists" in believing falsified evidence that does no even make scene
As for abductees can't make any judgement on them because i do not know if aliens truly exist
scientist think it would be quite absurd if indeed we are the only intelligent living beings in this universe (some even toy with the idea of a multiverse)
The only evidence you will ever get when it comes to spirits is if you come into contact with them
When a secular person uses the word faith it means belief based on the evidence provided. As in the case of the big bang, all physics models and gathered evidence that point to this being the case.
you are terribly wrong my fren - you're now inventing new vocabulary
You keep going on about the big bang theory but im now absolutely certain you do know what it entails. So let me address that so you stop talking out of ignorance or what you
think it is and what is isnt.
The big bang theory points to everything in the universe in the universe as we know it originating from a singularity. It
does not postulate that the singularity came from nothing. I have mentioned before that the "big bang" describes the inflation of space time from this singularity.
"The
Big Bang theory is a
cosmological model of the
observable universe from the
earliest known periods through its subsequent large-scale evolution.
[1][2][3] The model describes how the
universe expanded from a very high-
density and high-
temperature state"
"One of the common misconceptions about the Big Bang model is that it fully explains the
origin of the universe. However, the Big Bang model does not describe how energy, time, and space was caused, but rather it describes the emergence of the present universe from an ultra-dense and high-temperature initial state."
THESE TWO QUOTATIONS ARE STRAIGHT OUT OF THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE ON THE BBT. THE FIRST BEING THE OPENING SENTENCE AND THE LATTER ON MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE BBT. NEITHER OF WHICH TALK ABOUT THE ORIGINS.
Now, you speak of lack of evidence for the big bang? Here you go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang#Observational_evidence
This is a hell of a lot more than you can provide for spirits short of anecdotal evidence.
When a secular person uses the word faith it means belief based on the evidence provided. As in the case of the big bang, all physics models and gathered evidence that point to this being the case.
you are terribly wrong my fren - you're now inventing new vocabulary
What vocabulary?
Tell me what your definition of faith is and we can then have a conversation from there since you are cherry-picking what definition to use based on whatever statement you want to make.
You can believe things based on bad evidence. However, you need to critically think to determine if the evidence you have is bad or good based on any counterproposals.
what if all the "counterproposals" are all based on bad evidence too ?, doesn't that mean yo have "faith" based on bad evidence ?.
If counterproposals are based on bad evidence then you will reach a wrong conclusion. And this why I made a clear definition of the word faith. My belief in that "wrong conclusion" would be backed by that faulty evidence. And I can justify that belief and you can show me that my belief is wrong by showing the what is invalid in the evidence propping up that belief.
Now if you believe things without evidence then that is shitty way to live. Because you will believe anything.
so you mean religious people live shitty ?
may also means big bang theorist live shitty too because they believe nothing gave rise to something (crazy haaa !!!!! ,no real evidence to support the theory)
Do you see how you keep trying to strawman things? I said believing things without evidence is a shitty way to live. You inferred this to religious people. I made no mention of this. As for the evidence to BBT, there is evidence there. You can choose to refute it, but you have to understand what you are refuting first which you don't. And if you do understand it, show why the supporting evidence is wrong.
The only evidence you will ever get when it comes to spirits is if you come into contact with them
This is idiotic. And let me explain why. You cannot start with a conclusion and say that conclusion is the very evidence for the thing you are proposing it to be. You must either:
1. Show to a comfortable degree of certainty, that this proposed thing to be different from all other things you know it could be; and/or
2. Show to a comfortable degree of certainty, that the proposed thing is like this thing you are proposing it is. by comparing with something demonstrable.
Therefore to say something is a spirit you must:
1. Show it is not a hallucination, illusion, trick, deception etc
2. Define and show/demonstrate that there are things such as spirits and why your experience matches what can de said to be a spirit.