bila lube: the sequel

stanmwa said:
The ideal situation. Kenya is largely arid and semi arid. Take time and look at Kenya on google maps (satellite view) and compare with her neighbors
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Does Google maps know Kenya more than us?
We have enough arable land to grow enough for our use and even export.
If JSKS can guarantee minimum returns and find a way of lowering production costs, then we are good.
 
Aviator said:
If JSKS can guarantee minimum returns and find a way of lowering production costs, then we are good.
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guaranteed minimum returns is another word for subsidies. The new admin should come out and tell people the truth. Hakuna pesa and we might struggle for the next 3 years to normalise things
 
Okiya said:
guaranteed minimum returns is another word for subsidies. The new admin should come out and tell people the truth. Hakuna pesa and we might struggle for the next 3 years to normalise things
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Not necessarily. A well-controlled production/storage/supply chain can guarantee minimum returns to a certain level.

Take the case of milk. Brokers are currently buying from farmers at between 45-50 per liter. Same guys will buy at 25 bb at another time. If industrialization is encouraged such that the excess milk in times of plenty doesn't spoil the market, then the farmer can be guaranteed a fixed figure of 40bob throughout the year, which is profitable.

Same thing with potatoes. Store them and release then during shortages. Maize too. Make the NCPB efficient in taking and off-loading. If a farmer is guaranteed say 4k for every bag, they will produce more, and in return we will never have a situation where we import maize at 6.5k a bag. This has the potential to keep unga prices at below 150 throughout the year, without any subsidies.
 
Aviator said:
Not necessarily. A well-controlled production/storage/supply chain can guarantee minimum returns to a certain level.

Take the case of milk. Brokers are currently buying from farmers at between 45-50 per liter. Same guys will buy at 25 bb at another time. If industrialization is encouraged such that the excess milk in times of plenty doesn't spoil the market, then the farmer can be guaranteed a fixed figure of 40bob throughout the year, which is profitable.

Same thing with potatoes. Store them and release then during shortages. Maize too. Make the NCPB efficient in taking and off-loading. If a farmer is guaranteed say 4k for every bag, they will produce more, and in return we will never have a situation where we import maize at 6.5k a bag. This has the potential to keep unga prices at below 150 throughout the year, without any subsidies.
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It means that the government will be the buyer of the farm produce. Milk, potatoes, coffee, tea, etc.

There was such a debate in Europe in 2020 and the European Commission rejected the farmers' demands invoking market rules and free competition
 
Okiya said:
It means that the government will be the buyer of the farm produce. Milk, potatoes, coffee, tea, etc.

There was such a debate in Europe in 2020 and the European Commission rejected the farmers' demands invoking market rules and free competition
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Here, we need it because the market isn't really free.
 
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