You don't like this style of transmission? Why are you insisting on transmission being 3G only? Saboteurs wakingoa masts the way they did KPLC then kusikuwe na network what happens?
Ala!Ala! Live streaming of poll results to be scrapped
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You don't like this style of transmission? Why are you insisting on transmission being 3G only? Saboteurs wakingoa masts the way they did KPLC then kusikuwe na network what happens?
Budspencer
Elder Lister
Conveniently blanked out manual voter identification?
Ngimanene na Muchere
Elder Lister
Wasnt the idea of electronic results transmissions to address the issue of poor or non existent physical infrastructure vile returning officer amepotea njiani, ama vile results za Tharaka Nithi zilikuja ni gari za miraa usiku wa manane
Returning officer kupotea has been addressed. Piga picha ya results na utume. Then Anza safari ya kuja Nairobi. Further more, the law doesn't prevent Itumbi from announcing the results.
There you go. What issue do you have in a person being identified manually if electronic fails? My friend, loopholes are being sealed!
Ngimanene na Muchere
Elder Lister
Except walimvamia for the by elections and did the same to Ndii when they set up theirs in Runda, wakihesabu, tunahesabu. You alluded to it. What will stop them this time round? Also the transmitted results have to be confirmed with form 34B ambayo RO officer atapotea nayo akisema barabara ni mbovu
Returning officer akipotea no announcing of results. It's as simple as that. Itumbi will have their copy of results which they can contest in court. But no more using the excuse that results were not transmitted on 3G hence we go for repeat elections.
Ngimanene na Muchere
Elder Lister
They'll ban alternative results transmissions or send D- to Hustla nerve centre. They should give an alternative to transmission like they've done for voter identification
Budspencer
Elder Lister
You don't see a leeway of multiple voting by an individual? I worked for ECK at one point and saw this first hand. The system will 'fail' and folks will vote seven times. In 2013 KIEMS worked flawlessly and it can again in 2022. People have realized they don't have numbers and want to keep 1m votes reserve.
Mr Black
Elder Lister
Some people just don't learn, instead of winning voters over they are busy making nonsense moves where they don't matter and alienating support bases they controlled while at it, at this rate Ruto ndani before saa sita, they are literally handing him the win.
Good luck to them in court, I can almost smell the repeal after a massive waste of time and depreciation of political capital.
Good luck to them in court, I can almost smell the repeal after a massive waste of time and depreciation of political capital.
First the manual register is to be used where the kits failed.
Secondly when one votes your vote your name is crossed and you are put some ink that takes days to come off.
Thirdly each party has agents all over.
So how can multiple voting occur?
wrongturn
Elder Lister
The Bill is seeking to amend Section 39 (1D) of the Elections Act by adding the words “and the physically delivered results”, sealing a window that the Supreme Court had cited in nullifying the 2017 presidential election results.
In its 2017 ruling, the Supreme Court narrowed down on 11,000 polling stations, some of them in Kiambu, Murang’a, Kisumu town, and other places that generally have good network, and which the IEBC said could not transmit their results forms because of lack of network.
“It is common knowledge that most parts of those counties have fairly good road network infrastructure. Even if we were to accept that all of them are off the 3G and/or 4G network range, it would take, at most, a few hours for the presiding officers to travel to vantage points from where they would electronically transmit the results,” the judges ruled, terming the failure an “inexcusable contravention”.
The new Bill now makes it possible for election results to be delivered physically or by other means where it is not possible to do so electronically.
“The commission shall verify that the results transmitted and the physically delivered results under this section are an accurate record of the results tallied, verified and declared at the respective polling stations,” says the new Bill, sponsored by Majority Leader Amos Kimunya.
For Kenya, the proposed return to a physical delivery of elections results is an expensive one.
The proposed law wants all ward representatives’ election petitions to terminate at the High Court, in what it hopes will avoid crowding of the Court of Appeal, which is the appellate court for all other election petitions.
The Bill also wants those seeking to dispute IEBC’s decision to accept or reject nomination papers — before party primaries winners or independents are declared candidates — to do so within 48 hours after the last day of such an exercise.
It also sets conditions for transfer of voters, the key provision that allows Kenyans to move from one polling station to another in any constituency in the country, or outside it, where the IEBC is registering voters.
If the Bill passes, those seeking to transfer will be required to prove that they are employed, own a business, or possess land or a residential building — for at least six months — in the constituency they intend to transfer to.
MPs plan changes to 2022 elections law
Elections Bill seeks to provide for complimentary mechanisms for voter identification and transmission of results.
nation.africa
We bashed maraga yet when steps are taken to correct the abnormally we cry foul, watu wa ku rent no more transferring .
Budspencer
Elder Lister
Strongholds rarely have party agents from opposing camps. Those same strongholds will have kits that 'fail'. This is obvious, mbona kujifanya stranger hii nchi na umepiga kura hii nchi countless times?
Field Marshal
Elder Lister
Why are you spoiling the wankfest with facts?The Bill is seeking to amend Section 39 (1D) of the Elections Act by adding the words “and the physically delivered results”, sealing a window that the Supreme Court had cited in nullifying the 2017 presidential election results.
In its 2017 ruling, the Supreme Court narrowed down on 11,000 polling stations, some of them in Kiambu, Murang’a, Kisumu town, and other places that generally have good network, and which the IEBC said could not transmit their results forms because of lack of network.
“It is common knowledge that most parts of those counties have fairly good road network infrastructure. Even if we were to accept that all of them are off the 3G and/or 4G network range, it would take, at most, a few hours for the presiding officers to travel to vantage points from where they would electronically transmit the results,” the judges ruled, terming the failure an “inexcusable contravention”.
The new Bill now makes it possible for election results to be delivered physically or by other means where it is not possible to do so electronically.
“The commission shall verify that the results transmitted and the physically delivered results under this section are an accurate record of the results tallied, verified and declared at the respective polling stations,” says the new Bill, sponsored by Majority Leader Amos Kimunya.
For Kenya, the proposed return to a physical delivery of elections results is an expensive one.
The proposed law wants all ward representatives’ election petitions to terminate at the High Court, in what it hopes will avoid crowding of the Court of Appeal, which is the appellate court for all other election petitions.
The Bill also wants those seeking to dispute IEBC’s decision to accept or reject nomination papers — before party primaries winners or independents are declared candidates — to do so within 48 hours after the last day of such an exercise.
It also sets conditions for transfer of voters, the key provision that allows Kenyans to move from one polling station to another in any constituency in the country, or outside it, where the IEBC is registering voters.
If the Bill passes, those seeking to transfer will be required to prove that they are employed, own a business, or possess land or a residential building — for at least six months — in the constituency they intend to transfer to.
MPs plan changes to 2022 elections law
Elections Bill seeks to provide for complimentary mechanisms for voter identification and transmission of results.
We bashed maraga yet when steps are taken to correct the abnormally we cry foul, watu wa ku rent no more transferring .
Budspencer
Elder Lister
Live streaming is the best accountability tool. Period!
strongholds rarely have party agents from opposing camps as you say. So what will stop live streaming of fake results from those strongholds?
Budspencer
Elder Lister
KIEMS.
In 2013 we had the most peaceful election post multi-party era in Kenya. Why go back to the confusion era again?
So if say Raila gets 20,000 in a polling station in Kisumu, KiEMS will prevent the presiding officer from announcing that he got 30,000 on live stream?