HCQ works, this guys dismantling furkin WHO
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Ngimanene na Muchere
Elder Lister
Trump was right about the stoopid WHO and that Ethiopian fighting to keep his paycheck
Budspencer
Elder Lister
You cannot force it to work
Nattydread
Elder Lister
Ukimalizana na huyo rudi utuchambulie za Stella Immanuel. Hiyo ya kutombwa na mashetani usiku ni ngumu sana.
India ia using it and it seems quite effective
Budspencer
Elder Lister
Hii imekua wimbo ya desperation. Let scientists do their work. Imagine WH Corona correspondent amesema it doesn't work. No matter the amount of dirty politricks thrown at it, it'll not work
Nattydread
Elder Lister
Where are the verified stats? So far, the most fervent defenders are Drumpf and characters like the guy above and Stella the mad witch. None is an epidemiologist or internist. None has ever paraded a 'healed' patient or shown us where they treat them.
Here is what India says:
Explained: What works (and does not) in Covid treatment
Experts Explain ~ Drugs used in Covid-19 treatment: As cases and deaths rise, doctors have been trying out a range of treatments. Based on current evidence and what scientists say, here’s a compendium of what works (or doesn’t) — and in what specific circumstances
indianexpress.com
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Pseudonyms
Elder Lister
Where are the verified stats? So far, the most fervent defenders are Drumf amd characters like the guy above and Stella the mad witch. None is an epidemiologist or internist. None has ever paraded a 'healed' patient or shown us where they treat them.
Here is what India says:
Explained: What works (and does not) in Covid treatment
Experts Explain ~ Drugs used in Covid-19 treatment: As cases and deaths rise, doctors have been trying out a range of treatments. Based on current evidence and what scientists say, here’s a compendium of what works (or doesn’t) — and in what specific circumstances
Please listen to what the guy says. What I got is this:
Studies that show hydroxychloroquine DOES work are from prophylaxis cases, ie, cases that have been newly infected, with little or no symptoms, when the body's production of cytokines is still in check.
Studies that show that hydroxychloroquine DOES NOT work are from patients in late phases of the disease, when the body's immune system has been overwhelmed by its own overproduction of the cytokines and consequently runaway inflammation of tissues especially lung and heart tissue, and are in the ICU.
He's angry because CDC, WHO, etc, have used this second type of studies to conclude that hydroxychloroquine does not work at all at any stage of the infection.
Even for a skeptic like me, I think he makes a very strong case for use of hydroxychloroquine for prophylaxis of Covid-19, as well as for its early management.
Nattydread
Elder Lister
Please tell the guy that there have been studies based on fresh infections:
The authors enrolled 821 participants; an illness that was considered to be consistent with Covid-19 developed in 107 participants (13.0%) but was confirmed by polymerase-chain-reaction assay in less than 3% of the participants. The incidence of a new illness compatible with Covid-19 did not differ significantly between participants receiving hydroxychloroquine (49 of 414 [11.8%]) and those receiving placebo (58 of 407 [14.3%]). Although participant-reported side effects were significantly more common in those receiving hydroxychloroquine (40.1%) than in those receiving placebo (16.8%), no serious adverse reactions were reported.
Ngimanene na Muchere
Elder Lister
The same WHO that said it's not airbone communicable?
If HCQ does not work, why did they have to publish fake data? In that article that @Nattydread has shared they say vitamin c does not work, lakini hapa Kenya ndio MOH inasema watu wapatiwe. So which is which?
Btw anybody who still believes WHO anafaa aangaliwe akili, they have been disorganised since last year, from denying the virus is dangerous, to telling people masks don't work, to telling people it is not airborne, to praising China....that organisation is a mess and it needs to be disbanded!
Btw anybody who still believes WHO anafaa aangaliwe akili, they have been disorganised since last year, from denying the virus is dangerous, to telling people masks don't work, to telling people it is not airborne, to praising China....that organisation is a mess and it needs to be disbanded!
Pseudonyms
Elder Lister
Look at the very next paragraph in that article. Even more telling, the last sentence.
"This trial has many limitations, acknowledged by the investigators. The trial methods did not allow consistent proof of exposure to SARS-CoV-2 or consistent laboratory confirmation that the symptom complex that was reported represented a SARS-CoV-2 infection. Indeed, the specificity of participant-reported Covid-19 symptoms is low, so it is hard to be certain how many participants in the trial actually had Covid-19."
This trial shouldn't be considered as anywhere near scientific. It's like a mail opinion poll. Look at how they recruited participants:
" “pragmatic” trial in which participants were recruited through social media and almost all data were reported by the participants."
I am a layman and I can see through the intellectual dishonesty in trials/studies like this. This should never happen with such a serious disease as Covid-19, unless there is an profit agenda being pushed.
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Btw was Stella alone in the conference where all those doctors all said it works, why is she being attacked as if she was all alone? Is it because she is both from Africa and religious? Now she should be discredited?
Nattydread
Elder Lister
She was not alone, but the world remembers just her. After 8 minutes, the rest were trying to get her off the microphone.
So why just attack her and not the others, clearly it is not the science but the personality that is being attackedShe was not alone, but the world remembers just her. After 8 minutes, the rest were trying to get her off the microphone.
Nattydread
Elder Lister
We do not know the others. She hogged the show 1000%. If the things she says represent their common position, they're lost.
