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Mwalimu-G said:
CAR-bee-SIR!
And while at it explain why our health service has no provision for situations where required treatment is beyond the reach of ordinary families so that they do not have to depend on philanthropy.
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Those are developed world ideals.

Right now the coffers are empty and Nabii has decided to tax the former president to cover that deficit.

Waking a sleeping lion. Who has nothing else to do but be a nuisance.

While he should be running the country.

USA gained independence in 1776. And they still don't have affordable healthcare.

So tuseme Vision 2500 ?
 
Mwalimu-G said:
CAR-bee-SIR!
And while at it explain why our health service has no provision for situations where required treatment is beyond the reach of ordinary families so that they do not have to depend on philanthropy.
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Well spoken. Hio kitu huniuma sana.
Nimeona ata kuna wengine with serious medical cases filmed intrusively and paraded on TV pleading for help.
That can’t be right whichever angle one looks at it.
Ministry of Health should have a fund for such extraordinary and peculiar maladies. Other countries do.
 
Field Marshal said:
So we are going to place the failures/successes of 60 years of self-governance on a 5-month administration?

Super brilliant!
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Now, who said my comment ic about the current administration? Breath, brother.

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Tiiga Waana said:
Well spoken. Hio kitu huniuma sana.
Nimeona ata kuna wengine with serious medical cases filmed intrusively and paraded on TV pleading for help.
That can’t be right whichever angle one looks at it.
Ministry of Health should have a fund for such extraordinary and peculiar maladies. Other countries do.
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My dear, your heart may be in a good place, but please be realistic; Kenya is a poor country with limited funds for EVERYTHING.

The fact that politicians steal like crazy and our people breed like rats worsen things but the fact remains, we collect too little in taxes.

In a limited-resource environment, the guiding principle is that you direct your energies and money WHERE IT DOES THE MOST GOOD.

Taking one kid to India for cancer surgery may cost say Sh6m. That's enough money to buy 20,000 doses of paediatric coartem ( the recommended drug for malaria). That's enough medicine to save like 2,000 lives during an outbreak.

Now, when your resources are limited, what would you do?

Anybody who attended med school when Magoha was teaching at KNH knows the answer....
 
Field Marshal said:
My dear, your heart may be in a good place, but please be realistic; Kenya is a poor country with limited funds for EVERYTHING.

The fact that politicians steal like crazy and our people breed like rats worsen things but the fact remains, we collect too little in taxes.

In a limited-resource environment, the guiding principle is that you direct your energies and money WHERE IT DOES THE MOST GOOD.

Taking one kid to India for cancer surgery may cost say Sh6m. That's enough money to buy 20,000 doses of paediatric coartem ( the recommended drug for malaria). That's enough medicine to save like 2,000 lives during an outbreak.

Now, when your resources are limited, what would you do?

Anybody who attended med school when Magoha was teaching at KNH knows the answer....
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In my humble opinion there are two reasons why Government Intervention may be necessary in such unique and rare medical cases as often shown on TV:

. Save the patient, family and friends from humiliation and abasement of being paraded on TV showing all those ugly tumours springing from unmentionable organs.
By the way, I am told those TV channels charge ridiculous amounts to solicit funds for these patients.

. Such cases should be thoroughly researched and studied to find out why they occur and whether general public are susceptible, disposed or prone to such. The most amazing medical breakthroughs throughout the ages have come about this way.

Let us also remember that ILL and sick people are humans. We can’t ignore their sufferings and misfortunes in the guise that there is no money.
If it was your Child or Relation would you be happy to tolerate the argument that Kenya is a very poor country?

And this at a time when JSKS is doubling his State House budget to Ksh 9 Billion so that he can live with all the comforts known to man and be able to give brown envelopes to all those politicians and churchmen he wishes to buy.
 
Tiiga Waana said:
In my humble opinion there are two reasons why Government Intervention may be necessary in such unique and rare medical cases as often shown on TV:

. Save the patient, family and friends from humiliation and abasement of being paraded on TV showing all those ugly tumours springing from unmentionable organs.
By the way, I am told those TV channels charge ridiculous amounts to solicit funds for these patients.

. Such cases should be thoroughly researched and studied to find out why they occur and whether general public are susceptible, disposed or prone to such. The most amazing medical breakthroughs throughout the ages have come about this way.

Let us also remember that ILL and sick people are humans. We can’t ignore their sufferings and misfortunes in the guise that there is no money.
If it was your Child or Relation would you be happy to tolerate the argument that Kenya is a very poor country?

And this at a time when JSKS is doubling his State House budget to Ksh 9 Billion so that he can live with all the comforts known to man and be able to give brown envelopes to all those politicians and churchmen he wishes to buy.
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Sweetheart, I am a pragmatist. I live in the real world where we often have to make tough decisions.

I have just given you an example with Coartem; if you had 6m as the PS Health would you use it with one unfortunate girl or would you use the funds to cover a whole county in Nyanza?

You see the earthquake victims in Turkey and Syria? I can assure you medics on the ground are making these life-and-death decisions on an hour by hour basis. Do you use the serum available to try and save a critically-ill patient going into multiple-organ failure, or do you use it to rescuscitate three young boys who are not that far gone? Do you commit a theatre, with its compliment of surgeons, anaesthetists, critical care nurses, etc, to conduct a six-hour operation to save the life of one person, or do you use these resources and time to operate on 10 other patients who require an hour or so but who will otherwise deteriorate.

My dear, next time go to KNH and see the decisions medics take DAILY...
 
Young_Turk said:
Those are developed world ideals.

Right now the coffers are empty and Nabii has decided to tax the former president to cover that deficit.

Waking a sleeping lion. Who has nothing else to do but be a nuisance.

While he should be running the country.

USA gained independence in 1776. And they still don't have affordable healthcare.

So tuseme Vision 2500 ?
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I agree with you except for the US part. They do not have affordable Healthcare by choice, 'insert big pharma and insurance companies'. To them healthcare is a business.
 
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