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    The abortion debate...

    Finally on the same page... The argument isn't logically sound because it draws false equivalence... The syllogical fallacy here would be a Four Term Fallacy, or Fallacy of Equivocation. Strictly speaking, syllogisms must have a major premise, minor premise, and a conclusion drawn from the...
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    The abortion debate...

    I will again illustrate this side by side... @Burner this time I copy and paste your argument and attach my equivalence to show the incoherence Premise 1: Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy. Premise 1: Sex is the penetration of the vagina by a penis Premise 2: Abortion is murder...
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    The abortion debate...

    Sorry, I meant miscarriage was not part of your premise...
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    The abortion debate...

    This is exactly true... Guess what? Miscarriage doesn't occur anywhere in your premise... And this kind of syllogical incoherence is quite prevalent in your thought process. It's exactly what leads you to hold true two contradictory positions... i.e No one should vacate bodily autonomy for...
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    The abortion debate...

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    The abortion debate...

    Flatter yourself, but the mistake is on your end. Abortion is not part of your premise... Your premise is centered around termination pregnancy, not miscarriage. I formulated a similar argument, premised around penetration, not rape. A: Abortion is termination of a pregnancy A: Sex is...
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    The abortion debate...

    Nothing sound or logical about this... you are drawing false equivalencies. Here is what you are saying: a: Sex is penetration of the vagina by the penis b: Sex is healthy and should be encouraged c: Rape is penetration of the vagina by the penis Conclusion... by your warped logic that...
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    The abortion debate...

    But your whole argument for abortion is founded on the idea that one person shouldn't give up their bodily autonomy for the sake of another... This new position outrightly contradicts the first position. So, which is which? You are all over the place... incoherent Such is the hallmark of...
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    The abortion debate...

    @Burner still interested to hear your justification for violating the woman's right to bodily autonomy at 12wks when the pregnancy is now a 'person'. Yet the crux of your argument is that no one should give away right to bodily autonomy to another 'person'. In essence your argument for...
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    The abortion debate...

    P1: Abortion is the willful termination of a pregnancy P2: ... P4: A Miscarriage is the termination of a pregnancy by an act of God Your logic is so warped because you word your definitions to do away with the differences. ..... P1: Bodyguards must defend the president from harm P2: Failure to...
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    The abortion debate...

    The miscarriage argument is akin to suggesting that because I say dogs breathe and humans breathe dogs are humans. Under what circumstance is abortion logically equated to abortion? One is induced... the other an act of God. It's either a blatant mischaracterization, or you don't understand...
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    The abortion debate...

    You are digging yourself deeper. Do you suggest that the medical definitions are the same? They are only as equal in medical definitions as murder, suicide, and death are equal. The cause is very central to the differentiation. So, why would a woman be charged for having a miscarriage? Honestly...
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    The abortion debate...

    The factual errors in this statement!!! Also, have you heard of good Samaritan laws? And do you understand the special demand placed on relationships? i.e A parent is obligated by law to take a child to hospital if they are sick. A parent is obligated to feed their child... etc Heck, in...
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    The abortion debate...

    Do you understand the difference between an abortion and a miscarriage? How do you even conflate the two? Do you see a problem with determining who is a person and who is not? This is the very ideology that fueled EVERY genocide, literally!!! The comparison between slavery and abortion isn't a...
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    The abortion debate...

    So, you say abortion isn't murder because the law and hospitals word it so? What of slavery, was it okay because the intellectuals and lawyers of the day deemed it right and Blacks were considered genetically inferior? If someone had said slavery was wrong, would you have considered the...
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    The abortion debate...

    So when we say don't kill street kids, it makes no sense because no one is busy feeding them? By your logic, we should all accept the murder of street kids and orphans that no one takes care of? That's warped logic... Worse than abortion???? Not taking care of children you did not conceive...
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    The abortion debate...

    That abortion is murder is absolutely true... Otherwise, why should there be a time limitation on when abortions can be legally sought? Why is it improper to abort an 8 month old baby, but okay a 4 month old baby? The idea that abortion is a contraceptive option is one of the worst human...
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    The pagan origins of Easter

    @Aviator also consider SunDay... the day of the Sun God. The Day to worship the Sun God. Should we stop Sunday worship because of its pagan origins?
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    The pagan origins of Easter

    God is derived from old English words that referred to both Gautan and Odin. A closer example. Kiuks call God Ngai. Ngai was originally the deity that resided on Mt Kenya (Mwene Nyaga). Should Kikuyus and all tribes of the earth abandon the tribal names they use for God because of their...
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    The pagan origins of Easter

    Do you know the pagan origins of the name 'God'? What of the name 'Jesus'? Should we also abandon the use of these names?
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