the real deep state

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Elder Lister

"The political funeral speeches “celebrating” Kirubi evidence an oligarch. Wiper’s Kalonzo confessed how Kirubi made him VP. I had thought all along it was PNU’s Mwai Kibaki who made him VP. ODM’s Raila Odinga revealed it was Kirubi who ended the 2007 post-election violence by convincing him to strike the deal with Mr Kibaki. Businessman Polycarp Igathe disclosed that it was Kirubi who crafted the Sonko-Igathe ticket to take Nairobi in 2017. Mr Igathe said Kirubi was the brains behind putting Nairobi under General Mohamed Badi and NMS. Ford-Kenya’s Moses Wetang’ula said as foreign minister, he took the oligarch to Ethiopia to PM Meles Zenawi to plead for favours for his private business. "

"How many other oligarchs are there in Kenya apart from Kirubi? "
 

Amooti

Lister
Many moons ago, I was having a drink with an old man from our sub-county, I had some fiashara in nyamakima and the guy I had gone to see introduced me to the old guy, he had a few flats here and there but he wasn't (kirubi) like rich. Anyhow we sat for a few bottles and I loudly wished I could see the president, because it would help me in one way or another. After many bottles we parted ways. My friend called me the following morning and asked me if I was serious about meeting with the president. Long story short, by that afternoon I had a one on one with the president. The old man had access to the state that even ministers could only dream about.
 

The.Black.Templar

Elder Lister
Staff member
Many moons ago, I was having a drink with an old man from our sub-county, I had some fiashara in nyamakima and the guy I had gone to see introduced me to the old guy, he had a few flats here and there but he wasn't (kirubi) like rich. Anyhow we sat for a few bottles and I loudly wished I could see the president, because it would help me in one way or another. After many bottles we parted ways. My friend called me the following morning and asked me if I was serious about meeting with the president. Long story short, by that afternoon I had a one on one with the president. The old man had access to the state that even ministers could only dream about.
Maliza hekaya bwana, ulisaidika?
 

Amooti

Lister
Maliza hekaya bwana, ulisaidika?
Yes. I later came to learn that if you wanted your son/daughter to join say utalii college on those reserved placements, you just needed to see him. Police force, he'd take you to Kiganjo a few days after admission of the guys who ran to get in, his vetting was final. Same for the military! Deep state only has a few visible faces.
During Mo1s era, when he was out of political limelight Mark Too was Deep state. A behind the scenes guy who continued to control things during M01s era and Kibakis era.
Chris Kirubi was a bit too showy for this role, unless he was just a mouth piece.
 
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