Summary of Leaked BBI report

zapp_brannigan

zapp_brannigan

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Mwalimu-G said:
I have watched Citizen news and apparently there is much more than just representation. Shida naona tukitegemea social media we shall be (mis)informed by vested interests.
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I welcome other parts that are beneficial to the common man but increasing political seats is a No for me . We can't even fund our current budget without borrowing and we now want more seats .Remember the current govt has introduced taxes to internet subscription , fuel , soft drinks , etc na bado pesa haitoshi . Unga is still at 120 shillings . Let's address the basics please .
 
Mwalimu-G

Mwalimu-G

Elder Lister
Ubongo said:
Wanjiku anafaidika aje ebu twelezee
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report ndio hii

BBI Report

I invite you discuss the BBI report on this thread. Please read the document first before commenting so that we can have a healthy discussion. I invite to be civil and respectful even when you disagree with someone else opinion. Let's discuss it objectively and point out misinformation.
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Mr Black

Mr Black

Elder Lister
zapp_brannigan said:
I welcome other parts that are beneficial to the common man but increasing political seats is a No for me . We can't even fund our current budget without borrowing and we now want more seats .Remember the current govt has introduced taxes to internet subscription , fuel , soft drinks , etc na bado pesa haitoshi . Unga is still at 120 shillings . Let's address the basics please .
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There are some good proposals but the bad parts far outweigh the good ones in terms of their effect, the changes in the political architecture are cleverly crafted to consolidate immense power around the President and political parties.

Take the Judiciary Ombudsman appointed by the President for one, "parliamentary" political parties nominating IEBC commissioners, the Police being brought under direct control of the Interior Minister, abolishing nominated MP slots for vulnerable and marginalized groups and instead rewarding politicians who fail at the ballot with nominated seats in Parliament, this is an a shameless attempt to entrench the parasitic political class.
 
wrongturn

wrongturn

Elder Lister
Budspencer said:
No matter the other things they want to sweeten it with, representation itself knocks out the document for me. All or none.
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actually if you read it, most of the things can be addressed by simply implementing the current constitution or amending laws in parliament, but they want to sugar coat them to force a referendum since anything touching on structure of executive and parliament must be subjected to a referendum.
Mr Black said:
There are some good proposals but the bad parts far outweigh the good ones in terms of their effect, the changes in the political architecture are cleverly crafted to consolidate immense power around the President and political parties.

Take the Judiciary Ombudsman appointed by the President for one, "parliamentary" political parties nominating IEBC commissioners, the Police being brought under direct control of the Interior Minister, abolishing nominated MP slots for vulnerable and marginalized groups and instead rewarding politicians who fail at the ballot with nominated seats in Parliament, this is an a shameless attempt to entrench the parasitic political class.
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halafu those good part can be easily implemented by simply passing legislation kama hiyo ya kulipa suppliers within 30 days moses kuria has had a pending bill already in parliament, it doesn't need bbi, hiyp ya helb pia it's simple, it just need helb to amend it's lending policies, no need of bbi but they have simply no reason to amend the constitution but they've to mask their real intentions of creating unnecessary seats. sahi Twitter na Facebook wamelipa bloggers to trend the good parts hoping to win
 
Budspencer

Budspencer

Elder Lister
wrongturn said:
.......has had a pending bill already in parliament, it doesn't need bbi, hiyp ya helb pia it's simple, it just need helb to amend it's lending policies, no need of bbi but they have simply no reason to amend the constitution but they've to mask their real intentions of creating unnecessary seats.
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Exactly! Hata mimi nimeshangaa. This has made the document spooky for me.
 
Mr Black

Mr Black

Elder Lister
wrongturn said:
actually if you read it, most of the things can be addressed by simply implementing the current constitution or amending laws in parliament, but they want to sugar coat them to force a referendum since anything touching on structure of executive and parliament must be subjected to a referendum.

halafu those good part can be easily implemented by simply passing legislation kama hiyo ya kulipa suppliers within 30 days moses kuria has had a pending bill already in parliament, it doesn't need bbi, hiyp ya helb pia it's simple, it just need helb to amend it's lending policies, no need of bbi but they have simply no reason to amend the constitution but they've to mask their real intentions of creating unnecessary seats. sahi Twitter na Facebook wamelipa bloggers to trend the good parts hoping to win
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There is also another one seeking to give borrowers a 5 year grace period before repaying helb loans plus lower rates.

www.businessdailyafrica.com

Bill seeks lower interest, 5 year delay in Helb repayment

Interest charged on college student loans will be cut to three percent and the grace period for repayment increased to five years after graduation if lawmakers approve changes to the law.
www.businessdailyafrica.com www.businessdailyafrica.com

Tunachezwa kama watoto up in these streets!
 
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Quiet Storm

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wrongturn said:
actually if you read it, most of the things can be addressed by simply implementing the current constitution or amending laws in parliament, but they want to sugar coat them to force a referendum since anything touching on structure of executive and parliament must be subjected to a referendum.

halafu those good part can be easily implemented by simply passing legislation kama hiyo ya kulipa suppliers within 30 days moses kuria has had a pending bill already in parliament, it doesn't need bbi, hiyp ya helb pia it's simple, it just need helb to amend it's lending policies, no need of bbi but they have simply no reason to amend the constitution but they've to mask their real intentions of creating unnecessary seats. sahi Twitter na Facebook wamelipa bloggers to trend the good parts hoping to win
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BBI is like being served some delicious, roasted, goat ribs marinated in dawa ya kahawa.
Would you partake?
 
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