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It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
The estern part of D.R. Congo or the western Pacific beached region or the entire enormous country.
Budspencer
Elder Lister
Pacific?
It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
Oh,it is South Atlantic. My bad. That shud tell you about my sense of direction!
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
Kila kitu na wakati wake, au?
Field Marshal
Elder Lister
Kenya/Uhuru is making extremely bad strategic decisions. Kenyans may not know this, but this country is like Europe for other Africans. By removing visa requirements and allowing war-ridden countries like S. Sudan, Burundi and DRC to join the EAC, we are opening ourselves to uncontrolled migration from a pool of nearly 120m people.
We are already seeing the fruits of this Uhuru's mistaken pan-Africanism; virtually all the beggars and about 20 per cent of hawkers on our streets (both are illegal activities) are foreign; foreign hoes are coming to dominate the trade; some estates are being taken up by S.Sudanese and other criminal foreigners like Cameroonians and Nigerians, and so on.
Nairobi, which can barely cope with locals is now having to carry nearly 500,000 foreigners, mostly Somali.
Kenya may soon be down-graded as an investment destination as its world-class Internet infrastructure becomes used for crime, and the capital's financial infrastructure is used for money-laundering and other vices.
There's a reason why developed countries don't allow unregulated migration. In the region, we are light years ahead of the likes of S. Sudan and Congo.
We are already seeing the fruits of this Uhuru's mistaken pan-Africanism; virtually all the beggars and about 20 per cent of hawkers on our streets (both are illegal activities) are foreign; foreign hoes are coming to dominate the trade; some estates are being taken up by S.Sudanese and other criminal foreigners like Cameroonians and Nigerians, and so on.
Nairobi, which can barely cope with locals is now having to carry nearly 500,000 foreigners, mostly Somali.
Kenya may soon be down-graded as an investment destination as its world-class Internet infrastructure becomes used for crime, and the capital's financial infrastructure is used for money-laundering and other vices.
There's a reason why developed countries don't allow unregulated migration. In the region, we are light years ahead of the likes of S. Sudan and Congo.
Aviator
Elder Lister
Tangu uingie klist in 1967 it's the first time umeandika kitu ya maana.
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
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Kenyans to benefit after DR congo admission to EAC
Kenya’s products will be subjected to zero tariffs, tipping businesses for opportunities
In Summary
•In what would enhance travel within the EAC, Kenyans will be able to travel freely to DRC without a Visa just as they do other EAC member states.
•Kenya is leading Africa’s charge as DRC’s top investor nation with Equity Bank being the largest Bank in DRC and Eastern and Central.
President Uhuru Kenyatta and DRC President Felix Tshisekedi with other leaders at the UN Climate Change Conference in Glasgow.
Image: KENYA HIGH COMMISSION
Kenya is set to reap big after President Uhuru Kenyatta successfully brokered admission of the Democratic Republic of Congo to the East Africa Community.
On Wednesday, the 18 Extraordinary Summit of the regional bloc’s heads of state endorsed the admission of DRC into the EAC, making the country the newest member in the elite club.
The summit, which is currently chaired by Uhuru, adopted a report by the community’s council of ministers which recommended that DRC had met the requisite requirements for admission to EAC.
This was a culmination of efforts by the President to have DRC join the bloc, bolstering Kenya’s untapped opportunities in the gold-rich nation.
Uhuru has been leading the charge for DRC to join the regional bloc ever since the inauguration of President Felix Tshisekedi in 2018 as part of Nairobi’s strategy to expand its market.
While Tshisekedi launched his presidential bid in Nairobi in November 2018, Uhuru was the only African head of state who attended his inauguration in Congo.
During the visit, Uhuru proposed DRC’s admission to the EAC.
Demonstrating the ties between Kenya and Congo, Tshisekedi in his two years in power has visited Kenya four times more than any other East African nation.
On Wednesday, during the virtual summit of the heads of state, Uhuru underscored the significance of Congo’s admission to EAC.
“A key plunk of our deliberations today was progressing the aspirations of our brothers and sisters in the DRC to join with us in the East African Community,” President Uhuru said in his remarks during the virtual summit.
“I consider this as a testimony of not only the success of the East African Community but also the opportunities that remain untapped.”
The meeting was attended by Yoweri Museveni(Uganda), Samia Suluhu(Tanzania), Paul Kagame(Rwanda) and Prosper Bazombanza, Burundi Vice President.
Deng Alor represented South Sudan President Salva Kiir.
The DRC is Africa’s sixth-largest buyer of Kenya’s goods and purchases Kenya’s agricultural and manufactured goods more than any other product.
The admission of DRC is set to be a gamechanger in the country’s digital market search to boost its Gross Domestic Product by tapping the service industry.
Kenya’s products in DRC will be subjected to zero tariffs, tipping businesses for opportunities that would expand their markets.
In what would enhance travel within the EAC, Kenyans will be able to travel freely to DRC without a Visa just as they do other EAC member states.
All they will need is their East African passport.
Kenya is leading Africa’s charge as DRC’s top investor nation with Equity Bank being the largest Bank in DRC and Eastern and Central.
Last month the government and Equity Bank facilitated 200 Kenyans to travel to DRC to scout for opportunities.
Following the approval of the Heads of State, DRC becomes the second SADC member to join the EAC trading block.
The EAC is seen as the most integrated bloc among Africa’s eight regional economic communities
The EAC is better at free movement of people, infrastructure integration, macroeconomic integration, productive integration and trade integration than all other economic blocks in Africa.
When DRC joins EAC, EAC will control 10 per cent of Africa’s GDP with one out of every Sh10 that Africa will make likely to be made in East Africa.
Experts say East Africa’s total GDP will grow to $262 billion (Sh29 trillion) after DRC joins EAC with Kenya holding the pole position as EAC’s biggest economy.
This is more than all of the East African neighbours combined.
The road for the admission of DRC to the EACC has been a long one.
The Summit of the Heads of States had in February directed the EAC Council of Ministers to start the process of admitting DRC.
They directed the ministers to undertake a verification exercise under the EAC Criteria for Admission of Foreign States.
An EAC team visited DRC from June 26 to July 5 to verify the country’s level of conformity to the Treaty for the Establishment of the EAC.
On November 22, the EAC Council of Ministers, chaired by Kenya’s EAC Affairs and Regional Development Cabinet Secretary Adan Mohamed, gave the nod.
The Heads of State endorsed the proposal, laying the ground for the conclusion of the admission procedures to allow DRC into the bloc.
Edited by Kiilu Damaris
Kenyans to benefit after DR congo admission to EAC
Kenya’s products will be subjected to zero tariffs, tipping businesses for opportunities
In Summary
•In what would enhance travel within the EAC, Kenyans will be able to travel freely to DRC without a Visa just as they do other EAC member states.
•Kenya is leading Africa’s charge as DRC’s top investor nation with Equity Bank being the largest Bank in DRC and Eastern and Central.
President Uhuru Kenyatta and DRC President Felix Tshisekedi with other leaders at the UN Climate Change Conference in Glasgow.
Image: KENYA HIGH COMMISSION
Kenya is set to reap big after President Uhuru Kenyatta successfully brokered admission of the Democratic Republic of Congo to the East Africa Community.
On Wednesday, the 18 Extraordinary Summit of the regional bloc’s heads of state endorsed the admission of DRC into the EAC, making the country the newest member in the elite club.
The summit, which is currently chaired by Uhuru, adopted a report by the community’s council of ministers which recommended that DRC had met the requisite requirements for admission to EAC.
This was a culmination of efforts by the President to have DRC join the bloc, bolstering Kenya’s untapped opportunities in the gold-rich nation.
Uhuru has been leading the charge for DRC to join the regional bloc ever since the inauguration of President Felix Tshisekedi in 2018 as part of Nairobi’s strategy to expand its market.
While Tshisekedi launched his presidential bid in Nairobi in November 2018, Uhuru was the only African head of state who attended his inauguration in Congo.
During the visit, Uhuru proposed DRC’s admission to the EAC.
Demonstrating the ties between Kenya and Congo, Tshisekedi in his two years in power has visited Kenya four times more than any other East African nation.
On Wednesday, during the virtual summit of the heads of state, Uhuru underscored the significance of Congo’s admission to EAC.
“A key plunk of our deliberations today was progressing the aspirations of our brothers and sisters in the DRC to join with us in the East African Community,” President Uhuru said in his remarks during the virtual summit.
“I consider this as a testimony of not only the success of the East African Community but also the opportunities that remain untapped.”
The meeting was attended by Yoweri Museveni(Uganda), Samia Suluhu(Tanzania), Paul Kagame(Rwanda) and Prosper Bazombanza, Burundi Vice President.
Deng Alor represented South Sudan President Salva Kiir.
The DRC is Africa’s sixth-largest buyer of Kenya’s goods and purchases Kenya’s agricultural and manufactured goods more than any other product.
The admission of DRC is set to be a gamechanger in the country’s digital market search to boost its Gross Domestic Product by tapping the service industry.
Kenya’s products in DRC will be subjected to zero tariffs, tipping businesses for opportunities that would expand their markets.
In what would enhance travel within the EAC, Kenyans will be able to travel freely to DRC without a Visa just as they do other EAC member states.
All they will need is their East African passport.
Kenya is leading Africa’s charge as DRC’s top investor nation with Equity Bank being the largest Bank in DRC and Eastern and Central.
Last month the government and Equity Bank facilitated 200 Kenyans to travel to DRC to scout for opportunities.
Following the approval of the Heads of State, DRC becomes the second SADC member to join the EAC trading block.
The EAC is seen as the most integrated bloc among Africa’s eight regional economic communities
The EAC is better at free movement of people, infrastructure integration, macroeconomic integration, productive integration and trade integration than all other economic blocks in Africa.
When DRC joins EAC, EAC will control 10 per cent of Africa’s GDP with one out of every Sh10 that Africa will make likely to be made in East Africa.
Experts say East Africa’s total GDP will grow to $262 billion (Sh29 trillion) after DRC joins EAC with Kenya holding the pole position as EAC’s biggest economy.
This is more than all of the East African neighbours combined.
The road for the admission of DRC to the EACC has been a long one.
The Summit of the Heads of States had in February directed the EAC Council of Ministers to start the process of admitting DRC.
They directed the ministers to undertake a verification exercise under the EAC Criteria for Admission of Foreign States.
An EAC team visited DRC from June 26 to July 5 to verify the country’s level of conformity to the Treaty for the Establishment of the EAC.
On November 22, the EAC Council of Ministers, chaired by Kenya’s EAC Affairs and Regional Development Cabinet Secretary Adan Mohamed, gave the nod.
The Heads of State endorsed the proposal, laying the ground for the conclusion of the admission procedures to allow DRC into the bloc.
Edited by Kiilu Damaris
Field Marshal
Elder Lister
SEVENTH MEMBER
Kenyans to benefit after DR congo admission to EAC
Kenya’s products will be subjected to zero tariffs, tipping businesses for opportunities
In Summary
•In what would enhance travel within the EAC, Kenyans will be able to travel freely to DRC without a Visa just as they do other EAC member states.
•Kenya is leading Africa’s charge as DRC’s top investor nation with Equity Bank being the largest Bank in DRC and Eastern and Central.
President Uhuru Kenyatta and DRC President Felix Tshisekedi with other leaders at the UN Climate Change Conference in Glasgow.
Image: KENYA HIGH COMMISSION
Kenya is set to reap big after President Uhuru Kenyatta successfully brokered admission of the Democratic Republic of Congo to the East Africa Community.
On Wednesday, the 18 Extraordinary Summit of the regional bloc’s heads of state endorsed the admission of DRC into the EAC, making the country the newest member in the elite club.
The summit, which is currently chaired by Uhuru, adopted a report by the community’s council of ministers which recommended that DRC had met the requisite requirements for admission to EAC.
This was a culmination of efforts by the President to have DRC join the bloc, bolstering Kenya’s untapped opportunities in the gold-rich nation.
Uhuru has been leading the charge for DRC to join the regional bloc ever since the inauguration of President Felix Tshisekedi in 2018 as part of Nairobi’s strategy to expand its market.
While Tshisekedi launched his presidential bid in Nairobi in November 2018, Uhuru was the only African head of state who attended his inauguration in Congo.
During the visit, Uhuru proposed DRC’s admission to the EAC.
Demonstrating the ties between Kenya and Congo, Tshisekedi in his two years in power has visited Kenya four times more than any other East African nation.
On Wednesday, during the virtual summit of the heads of state, Uhuru underscored the significance of Congo’s admission to EAC.
“A key plunk of our deliberations today was progressing the aspirations of our brothers and sisters in the DRC to join with us in the East African Community,” President Uhuru said in his remarks during the virtual summit.
“I consider this as a testimony of not only the success of the East African Community but also the opportunities that remain untapped.”
The meeting was attended by Yoweri Museveni(Uganda), Samia Suluhu(Tanzania), Paul Kagame(Rwanda) and Prosper Bazombanza, Burundi Vice President.
Deng Alor represented South Sudan President Salva Kiir.
The DRC is Africa’s sixth-largest buyer of Kenya’s goods and purchases Kenya’s agricultural and manufactured goods more than any other product.
The admission of DRC is set to be a gamechanger in the country’s digital market search to boost its Gross Domestic Product by tapping the service industry.
Kenya’s products in DRC will be subjected to zero tariffs, tipping businesses for opportunities that would expand their markets.
In what would enhance travel within the EAC, Kenyans will be able to travel freely to DRC without a Visa just as they do other EAC member states.
All they will need is their East African passport.
Kenya is leading Africa’s charge as DRC’s top investor nation with Equity Bank being the largest Bank in DRC and Eastern and Central.
Last month the government and Equity Bank facilitated 200 Kenyans to travel to DRC to scout for opportunities.
Following the approval of the Heads of State, DRC becomes the second SADC member to join the EAC trading block.
The EAC is seen as the most integrated bloc among Africa’s eight regional economic communities
The EAC is better at free movement of people, infrastructure integration, macroeconomic integration, productive integration and trade integration than all other economic blocks in Africa.
When DRC joins EAC, EAC will control 10 per cent of Africa’s GDP with one out of every Sh10 that Africa will make likely to be made in East Africa.
Experts say East Africa’s total GDP will grow to $262 billion (Sh29 trillion) after DRC joins EAC with Kenya holding the pole position as EAC’s biggest economy.
This is more than all of the East African neighbours combined.
The road for the admission of DRC to the EACC has been a long one.
The Summit of the Heads of States had in February directed the EAC Council of Ministers to start the process of admitting DRC.
They directed the ministers to undertake a verification exercise under the EAC Criteria for Admission of Foreign States.
An EAC team visited DRC from June 26 to July 5 to verify the country’s level of conformity to the Treaty for the Establishment of the EAC.
On November 22, the EAC Council of Ministers, chaired by Kenya’s EAC Affairs and Regional Development Cabinet Secretary Adan Mohamed, gave the nod.
The Heads of State endorsed the proposal, laying the ground for the conclusion of the admission procedures to allow DRC into the bloc.
Edited by Kiilu Damaris
Let me repeat - Kenya is like a developed country compared to the DRC. When the 40 million or so Bakongos in eastern DRC discover that all they have to do is pay Sh3,000 busfare to cross Uganda to escape extreme poverty and war to reach 'Europe' ndiyo mtaelewa ramifications of uncontrolled migration. It'll make the Somali influx look like kindergarten...
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
This also means that we are also superior in manufacturing - from BIDCO in Thika to the wheelbarrow maker at Kariobangi Light Industries. They all need wider markets to sell more goods and employ more people. This means more money coming into our country from our neighbours....economies of scale, higher power consumption, cheaper goods etc.
mkurugenzi
Elder Lister
I agree. Uncontrolled immigration will be a big problem for us. Already all kinyozis in nairobi are run by congolese and rwandese, outcompeting local hustlers and leaving them penniless.
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
The market will correct itself...my favorite barber in Embu is a polite mid-20s Kalenjin youth who wandered in from Poome (that's what he calls Bomet). I know young people in Embu and Nyeri who will not be caught picking tea and coffee but their agemates from Kisii and Western have no problem. At Rwika market, deep in Mbeere land there is a jaluo family that has a restaurant specializing in ugali, sukuma eggs and omena. The owner has since brought his four brothers who fish river Rupingazi for catfish and other species. I even posted a picture of their catch here once. I know a Seneta here who does his business in Congo (
) and many skilled Kenyans in Rwanda. Let's not be xenophobic. Immigration is good for cross-border technology transfer.
Field Marshal
Elder Lister
Dude, sometimes you make me very, very angry when you pretend not to see obvious things. An economy has what you can call a carrying capacity. When you exceed that capacity things can collapse on their own weight. Kenya's public infrastructure - hospitals, schools, roads etc - can barely cope with our existing population, thanks to a very high fertility rate. Poverty is deepening. Then you throw open the doors to 90m people in a war ravaged country who only have to take a bus to reach here?The market will correct itself...my favorite barber in Embu is a polite mid-20s Kalenjin youth who wandered in from Poome (that's what he calls Bomet). I know young people in Embu and Nyeri who will not be caught picking tea and coffee but their agemates from Kisii and Western have no problem. At Rwika market, deep in Mbeere land there is a jaluo family that has a restaurant specializing in ugali, sukuma eggs and omena. The owner has since brought his four brothers who fish river Rupingazi for catfish and other species. I even posted a picture of their catch here once. I know a Seneta here who does his business in Congo (
As to foreign labour balancing out with local needs, I really don't know what to say. You are using the examples of people moving around IN THE SAME EVONOMY to argue a case of cross-border migration?
The reason why virtually all petty businesses will be over-run by illegal foreigners is the simple fact that the Kenyan shilling is strong. A Rwandese will work as a barber for just 8k -much lower than the legal wage - and live in slave-like conditions because when he converts that into his currency he will be earning like a high school teacher in his home.
But he would have taken that job from a deserving Kenyan who would be asking for just 15k, the legal wage. So you end up with joblessness, growing inequality because the kinyozi owner will be becoming richer on slave labour as his compatriots become poorer, and capital flight because the illegal Rwandese has to repatriate some of his earnings.
There's a reason why the US foregoes the cheap labour of Mexicans...
Don't make me use choice epithets
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
It looks like your thinking is micro and short term while I am macro and long term. I used the local examples as illustration.
Remember if we all apply protectionist measures then we are back to square one. BREXIT, anyone?
Field Marshal
Elder Lister
I rest my case...