Cytonn natolesha investors machos

mzeiya

Elder Lister
Wueh, this firm mimi huiogopa sana. Can't quite put my finger to it but what they promise in returns is a bit absurd.

Unfortunately many now are realizing that when the deal is too good, it's wise to think twice.

The below article from Bizna is from 4 years ago...
Why I can’t invest with Cytonn

Cytonn are creating a cult-like following of the naives who believe in everything dished to them and have little time to look at the questionable story that’s Cytonn’s “Success Story.”

In as much as I appreciate Dande and his team in their entrepreneurial journey, I find it hard to believe that a company that’s deep into the real estate sector (with long term, capital intensive projects in an already saturated sector) is sustainably going to weather the financial storm through leveraging on short-term shareholder funding.
If you thought Home Afrika was a wrong investment, hold on for Cytonn; we are about to see some serious collateral debt obligation happen probably like never before in Kenya.

There is always a huge tendency for shareholders to prefer few owners when they are doing well. The fact that Cytonn wants to get listed on the NSE so urgently can only mean two things; either they are trying to raise cash ( because a good chunk of their cash is still held up in Chase Bank, Nakumatt CP and bonds), or the founding shareholders are trying to exit the easy way we all know how; by selling their ambitions to the dumb public.
Their projects don’t seem to raise much appetite from the broke public… We discussed greatly before about how Home Afrika goofed up by creating a huge supply of real estate solutions for a hypothetical “middle class” that they sadly realized doesn’t exist and the few that really exists prefers to either rent or build their own cheaper houses instead.


Cytonn with their expertise should have known better and focused more on the real “real estate demand” segment which is an average of units costing Kes 3 Million – 6 Million or rentals of around Kes 20,000 – Kes 50,000.
Doing sophisticated projects is today’s suicide mission in real estate. It is only good for the window-shoppers who will take Instagram, Facebook and Whatsapp pictures but not much in revenue for the owners… and I guess Cytonn have found that out a bit too late into the mud and are now counting on the public naivety to buy into their IPO plan.
Has the Capital Markets Authority even granted them an operational licence yet?

Kenyans need to tread carefully on this one. For those planning to participate in the IPO, good luck. I will just grab a jar of popcorn and watch from the fences on this one.
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Sasa leo it seems some social media posts have brought home the realization that things aren't so rosy;
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Further read: https://kenyanwallstreet.com/court-...cution-of-cytonn-managers-over-sh-1-1b-theft/
 

Denis Young

Elder Lister
I warned my mzee a few months back not to touch Cytonn. It just gave me bad vibes. Anything with a largely real estate portfolio is not a favorable investment. There is a genuine bubble. In fact due to covid, people are moving out from upscale rental either back to mashambani or to low scale rentals to keep up with rent. I know of a building that is nearly completely empty and rents have gone down by 5k.
 

Ngimanene na Muchere

Elder Lister
I warned my mzee a few months back not to touch Cytonn. It just gave me bad vibes. Anything with a largely real estate portfolio is not a favorable investment. There is a genuine bubble. In fact due to covid, people are moving out from upscale rental either back to mashambani or to low scale rentals to keep up with rent. I know of a building that is nearly completely empty and rents have gone down by 5k.
Centum are betting heavily on real estate
 

The.Black.Templar

Elder Lister
Staff member
I warned my mzee a few months back not to touch Cytonn. It just gave me bad vibes. Anything with a largely real estate portfolio is not a favorable investment. There is a genuine bubble. In fact due to covid, people are moving out from upscale rental either back to mashambani or to low scale rentals to keep up with rent. I know of a building that is nearly completely empty and rents have gone down by 5k.
You are very right....kuna siku nilitembea hapo kahawa and there are very many vacant houses, it was unbelievable, you just have to stand anywhere and you will see a building with entire floors vacant
 
I can never give a cent to a Kenyan company to invest for me. I would rather buy a body boda and rent it out. No integrity and lack of vision. If they only paid out the few people requesting withdrawals they might have had a fighting chance , instead they created a bubble of panic where everyone felt the need to withdraw their investments ASAP resulting in their downfall. Wajinga sana.
 
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