Boychild under sieke!

[Nameless]

Shaffie Weru, Joe na Neville wamefutwa kazi. Those guys were breadwinners in their families, sai watoto wako home, kuna lockdown na economy ni mbaya. Ebu imagine someone losing his job in this period for telling women to take care of themselves and stop being too available.

Same truth that made feminists cancel Jalas when he posted this;

Even she gets it

Gender based violence should be shunned and spoken against but pia tukuwe tunasema ukweli. Let's fight the vice/crime using all means because ulinzi unaanza na mimi na wewe

 

[Anglututu]

Mh, I heard that conversation and the angle they took was their own making.
Sensitive conversations need wisdom, especially when you're on a platform where everyone one is listening.

 

[Mwalimu-G]

Mh, I heard that conversation and the angle they took was their own making.
Sensitive conversations need wisdom, especially when you're on a platform where everyone one is listening.

We are where we are because we have become too casual with what belongs to others; especially men being conned by girls who think they are too clever. I agree with Jalas that if a girl can't give then asichukue, and even worse, asidai halafu aanze michezo.

 

[Denis Young]

We are a third world country that has adopted first world problems. Nakwambia this generation ya kulia mental health wakipata stress kidogo is going to destroy the social fabric in this country.

 

[mzeiya]

Noma jo

 

[Mr Black]

We are where we are because we have become too casual with what belongs to others; especially men being conned by girls who think they are too clever. I agree with Jalas that if a girl can't give then asichukue, and even worse, asidai halafu aanze michezo.

Would it be acceptable if women attacked men maiming them and sometimes killing them because them dudes did not keep their end of the bargain?

Because that is where we are headed, you are basically saying violence is justified if someone shortchanges you and women too are capable of violence, we are normalising violence and we should know better, it is notoriously difficult to uproot norms.

 

[Pamba 1]

Noma jo

Those three CEOs are ladies, jama walifutwa saa saba ya usiku.

 

[Pamba 1]

Would it be acceptable if women attacked men maiming them and sometimes killing them because them dudes did not keep their end of the bargain?

Because that is where we are headed, you are basically saying violence is justified if someone shortchanges you and women too are capable of violence, we are normalising violence and we should know better, it is notoriously difficult to uproot norms.

Think you've just missed the point, should we stop discussing what's happening in the society by becoming proactive rather than reactive . If i always tell my daughters that walking in darkness chances of being preyed on are higher does it mean that i support rapists, security starts on individual level.

 

[Mwalimu-G]

Would it be acceptable if women attacked men maiming them and sometimes killing them because them dudes did not keep their end of the bargain?

Because that is where we are headed, you are basically saying violence is justified if someone shortchanges you and women too are capable of violence, we are normalising violence and we should know better, it is notoriously difficult to uproot norms.

It is a mark of an uncivil society where people take what belongs to others either violently or by deception. Uncivil societies are disorderly because they are not moderated by laws, and most importantly, by values.
When that disorderliness sets in, or is allowed to set in, life then becomes Hobesian, that is nasty, brutish and short.
I do not condone violence and in fact I am opposed to any form of violence. When we normalize deception and robbery (theft by emotional manipulation) and call it by funny names such as kukula fare, then we are setting the ground for more and more people to feel hopeless and unable to get redress from our law.
The result ni kuchukua sheria mkononi.
Let us reset our values.
My stating where we are or are headed does not in any way mean that I condone.

 

[wrongturn]

Would it be acceptable if women attacked men maiming them and sometimes killing them because them dudes did not keep their end of the bargain?

Because that is where we are headed, you are basically saying violence is justified if someone shortchanges you and women too are capable of violence, we are normalising violence and we should know better, it is notoriously difficult to uproot norms.

you missed it, nothing wrong in telling guys to take preventive measures. We have different types of human beings out there.Nikama tu biashara ya liquor, ukiambiwa usirushane or else worse will happen, does that mean people entertain violence?
I wouldn't want my sister or daughter to go to a stranger house, even my mum was cautious , every week she would remind my sisters never to get inside strangers cars or house.She even told them they would be kidnapped and killed to their face.

 

[Mr Black]

Think you've just missed the point, should we stop discussing what's happening in the society by becoming proactive rather than reactive . If i always tell my daughters that walking in darkness chances of being preyed on are higher does it mean that i support rapists, security starts on individual level.

I do not dispute that we have converted sex into a transactional activity, so much so that pale lake Victoria the cost of fish is sex.

What i fear is that we are normalising violence as a remedy for those who do not get (or think they aren't getting) a fair return for their investment, now that is not a norm we want to entrench, just look at the black-on-black violence in the US, it defies every bit of logic because it has been normalised.

We need to accept that it is not possible to get justice for every infraction, zingine inabidi tunakubali kuchezwo, in any case the perpetrators only end up in prison which isn't good for them either.

 

[Gio]

@Tiiga Waana leta maoni.

Kenyan ladies are too easy and also worship money. FACT

 

[Pamba 1]

I do not dispute that we have converted sex into a transactional activity, so much so that pale lake Victoria the cost of fish is sex.

What i fear is that we are normalising violence as a remedy for those who do not get (or think they aren't getting) a fair return for their investment, now that is not a norm we want to entrench, just look at the black-on-black violence in the US, it defies every bit of logic because it has been normalised.

We need to accept that it is not possible to get justice for every infraction, zingine inabidi tunakubali kuchezwo, in any case the perpetrators only end up in prison which isn't good for them either.

Jalas has summed it up well

 

[Mwalimu-G]

zingine inabidi tunakubali kuchezwo,

Tukizuia kuchezana (by the way calling theft by euphemisms is a way of normalizing it!) tutazuia the need for revenge violence. Donge?

 

[Nefertities]

the two main questioyn that should be asked here;

1. Was it really necessary for them to give their opinion on that matter?
2. Did they have to mention that lady who had her back broken and follow up with their nuggets of "wisdom"?

They could just as easily talked about her then waited for another session to express their opinions on what women should be doing (like they always do) without any backlash. But nooooooo give a man an inch and he'll take a mile
They've gotten used to talking sh!t without any consequences for so long and don't even know what "tact"is any more.

 

[Anglututu]

We are where we are because we have become too casual with what belongs to others; especially men being conned by girls who think they are too clever. I agree with Jalas that if a girl can't give then asichukue, and even worse, asidai halafu aanze michezo.

Jalas' post is not related to the situation being discussed, that was an old comment.

 

[Mwalimu-G]

But nooooooo give a man an inch and he'll take a mile

Honestly hii hai-apply hapo lakini...

 

[Pamba 1]

Jalas' post is not related to the situation being discussed, that was an old comment.

It's very much related infact I've posted it in relation to your assertions, unasema boychould akubali losses zingine, iko watu wazimu Omwami hawezi vumilia kukuliwa fare.

 

[Mwalimu-G]

Jalas' post is not related to the situation being discussed, that was an old comment.

I know. I took it up coz such situations will happen again and again if we do not reset our values.

 

[wrongturn]

I do not dispute that we have converted sex into a transactional activity, so much so that pale lake Victoria the cost of fish is sex.

What i fear is that we are normalising violence as a remedy for those who do not get (or think they aren't getting) a fair return for their investment, now that is not a norm we want to entrench, just look at the black-on-black violence in the US, it defies every bit of logic because it has been normalised.

We need to accept that it is not possible to get justice for every infraction, zingine inabidi tunakubali kuchezwo, in any case the perpetrators only end up in prison which isn't good for them either.

but mr black, we live in a society full of all characters,no perfect society in the whole world. So nothing about normalizing violence or anything but adopting to the reality. Am sure if you have kids, you warn them not to speak to strangers or accept anything from strangers, does that mean you're normalizing kidnapping or accepting the fact that the world is imperfect? we have good guys and bad guys, shida ni you'll never know until it's too late.