Adam vs Eve, in your own opinion, who do you think was actually the first to be created?
- Thread starter Da Vinci
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Just read the bible dude, hakuna kitu ya kufikiria ama guess work
It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
What were you taught?
SledgeHammer
Senior Lister
I think hio verse " He and He him, he created them " , ndio inakuchanganya
This is just a matter of discussion. I don't believe in God or gods or whatever supernatural/superhuman beings or forces. As well as others, all creation stories whether the Bible ones or else are all just stories to me and are only good for fun-reading and entertainment purposes.
I stumbled upon an alternative version to the genesis Adam and eve creation story and I found quite interesting. A Tanzanian was arguing that it was not Adam who was created first. Actually, Adam is a modification of another female who was created together with eve. That at first God created two females. But he realised his mistake, since he wanted them to multiply and fill the newly created earth but two females cannot reproduce. So, he made Adam sleep, modified his genitals and his reproduction organs, and also tinkered with his physique to eventually come forth with the male version of eve!
Evidence, you ask? The subdued breasts on all human males. If you look at down there on all male humans, there is that line that looks like a stitch that runs from the back of the scrotum, all the way to the underside tip of the penis! That's the scar that was left behind after the surgery! Females do not have that. There is no evidence that a rib was removed from one side of Adam, is there? Females have 12 pairs of ribs, that's 24 pieces. But, so do the males!
Bible, I am waiting for your rebuttal. So, over to you!
I stumbled upon an alternative version to the genesis Adam and eve creation story and I found quite interesting. A Tanzanian was arguing that it was not Adam who was created first. Actually, Adam is a modification of another female who was created together with eve. That at first God created two females. But he realised his mistake, since he wanted them to multiply and fill the newly created earth but two females cannot reproduce. So, he made Adam sleep, modified his genitals and his reproduction organs, and also tinkered with his physique to eventually come forth with the male version of eve!
Evidence, you ask? The subdued breasts on all human males. If you look at down there on all male humans, there is that line that looks like a stitch that runs from the back of the scrotum, all the way to the underside tip of the penis! That's the scar that was left behind after the surgery! Females do not have that. There is no evidence that a rib was removed from one side of Adam, is there? Females have 12 pairs of ribs, that's 24 pieces. But, so do the males!
Bible, I am waiting for your rebuttal. So, over to you!
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Aviator
Elder Lister
The bible isn't meant to be critiqued that way. It's meant to be believed. Full stop.
Burner
Elder Lister
Why? You dont apply the same standard for any other material you read, why the special exemption for the bible?
I don't want to just believe. I want to KNOW FOR SURE. Evidence through and THROUGH.
It's Me Scumbag
Elder Lister
I like this theory...
Aviator
Elder Lister
Because the bible is a religious book, not a scientific manual.
Aviator
Elder Lister
You're right.
That's why I read the Koran, bible, Gita, Torah, vedis, etc.
Burner
Elder Lister
So you believe all of them, and everything they say as being true?
She is just ducking. The shrewd ones always do that. Of course she doesn't read anything else apart from the bible! The claim was preemptive because she knew from experience what questions were to follow!
Aviator
Elder Lister
Yes and no.
See, the holy books are true in their own context. And false in a different context. I check what is applicable to me.
You note that religion and culture are closely connected. Since we have different cultures, it follows that we have different religions.
Burner
Elder Lister
If you speak of context then that means there are other factors you consider when it comes to believe them. This negates your earlier statement that you would just believe a book just because it is religious.
So, what contexts would you believe or disbelieve in a religious book? And what standards do you use to make that particular decision?
Mwalimu-G
Elder Lister
Don't you think god could have done a better job of rendering his story so it doesn't have so many loose ends?