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The.Black.Templar

Elder Lister
Staff member
I don't know. But when I did consultancy there, my friends were driving top of the range Toyotas. But here in Kenya my friends are driving saloon cars.
What is the tax regime for such vehicles in Sudan? I also have friends in SA who say that they cannot afford a decent 8year car in kenya but back at home in SA brand new show room cars are more affordable
 

Okiya

Elder Lister
What is the tax regime for such vehicles in Sudan? I also have friends in SA who say that they cannot afford a decent 8year car in kenya but back at home in SA brand new show room cars are more affordable
Get it right. I'm talking about the friends I had when I was there who are different from the ones I have when am here.
So if I am to analyse like you said based on my circle of friends, South Sudan is doing well.
 

bigDog

Elder Lister
What is the tax regime for such vehicles in Sudan? I also have friends in SA who say that they cannot afford a decent 8year car in kenya but back at home in SA brand new show room cars are more affordable
He is telling you that the evidence that you using to support your position is not reliable. If you go to a slum area in Nairobi and observe the living standards, you cannot use that observation to conclude that all Kenyans have the same living conditions.
 

Sambamba

Lister
If that is the definition then check the first link it shows growth via a declining poverty rate. Owning a vehicle is a sign of prosperity in kenya thus the second graph. There is no data on housing so the best I can direct you is looking at your circle.
You must be one of those consultants that were contracted by Actis to advice then on location of Garden City and used a very ingenious method
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The.Black.Templar

Elder Lister
Staff member
Get it right. I'm talking about the friends I had when I was there who are different from the ones I have when am here.
So if I am to analyse like you said based on my circle of friends, South Sudan is doing well.
This is why you are not getting points put across, I said there is no data on housing, so for housing you can look at your circle of friends. For vehicles, there is plenty of data...so what is the tax regime like in Sudan compared to Kenya we see if it is possible to explain the disparities?
 

The.Black.Templar

Elder Lister
Staff member
He is telling you that the evidence that you using to support your position is not reliable. If you go to a slum area in Nairobi and observe the living standards, you cannot use that observation to conclude that all Kenyans have the same living conditions.
There is no data on housing, the best you can do is look around your circle of friends...otherwise I have provided plenty of other data sources
 

Okiya

Elder Lister
This is why you are not getting points put across, I said there is no data on housing, so for housing you can look at your circle of friends. For vehicles, there is plenty of data...so what is the tax regime like in Sudan compared to Kenya we see if it is possible to explain the disparities?
That circle of friends logic doesn't make any sense to anyone except yourself.
South Sudan doesn't have plenty of data.
Want we compare with UK where there's plenty of data?
 

The.Black.Templar

Elder Lister
Staff member
That circle of friends logic doesn't make any sense to anyone except yourself.
South Sudan doesn't have plenty of data.
Want we compare with UK where there's plenty of data?
Maybe you can start here https://blog.japanesecartrade.com/64-south-sudan-import-regulation-for-japan-used-cars/
Do you notice a few cost savings already as compared with Kenya? Could it be that it is cheaper to own bog cars in South Sudan than in kenya?
Maybe if you ask some of your friends the taxes they paid and we can have the full picture?
 

Field Marshal

Elder Lister
The worst thing Kenya, or any country, can do to itself and it's people is to follow IMF and WB prescriptions.

These two organisations are neo-colonial institutions whose basic mandate is to keep economies hooked to the Western extractive financial system.

They'll tell you to privatise everything so that their 'investors" (oligarchs really) can buy your public assets extremely cheaply.

Just look at Safaricon, hived off from Telkom. They knew the potential of mobile telephony and insisted that GoK sell it to a foreign strategic investor. Vodafone swopped in. The original KPTC was left with unprofitable landlines.

Don't be surprised if they now come and tell us to sell of KCB, Kengen, KP and other strategic assets for instance. They know this economy will expand tremendously in the next decade, and they want when you put on that light bulb some faceless whites continue to become super-rich...
 

Sambamba

Lister
The worst thing Kenya, or any country, can do to itself and it's people is to follow IMF and WB prescriptions.

These two organisations are neo-colonial institutions whose basic mandate is to keep economies hooked to the Western extractive financial system.

They'll tell you to privatise everything so that their 'investors" (oligarchs really) can buy your public assets extremely cheaply.

Just look at Safaricon, hived off from Telkom. They knew the potential of mobile telephony and insisted that GoK sell it to a foreign strategic investor. Vodafone swopped in. The original KPTC was left with unprofitable landlines.

Don't be surprised if they now come and tell us to sell of KCB, Kengen, KP and other strategic assets for instance. They know this economy will expand tremendously in the next decade, and they want when you put on that light bulb some faceless whites continue to become super-rich...
You know what's even more maddening? those assets are bought with money that has been printed so essentially they are getting them for free.
 
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